I'm trying to find a road racing class that allows our cars, and trying to find out what mods are allowed, unfortunately everytime i try to open up the pdf's here http://www.sfrscca.org/RoadRacing/index.shtml my browser crashes.

 

The classes you mentioned are "regional only" classes, and thus will vary by region. Typically, unless you plan to run in a showroom stock class or slightly modified such as T-2, the class that will fit a camaro will be ITE. It is that way here in the San Francisco Region, and I am currently building a 1994 Z28 to run in that class.

-Randy

 

If you try again, try a right click, then save as. Then after it downloads, click open. That assumes you have Adobe acrobat reader installed.

I'll paste in the ITE rules for you from there. I have the feeling that building a competitive ITE car will be a challenge. I don't know your knowledge or ability levels, but if you are new at it I'd say: Have you been to the tracks and watched the races? Maybe find a racer that needs crew and/or work corners or tech...

BobC

San Francisco Region Prepared E Class Rules
UPDATED 12-2001
PREPARED E CLASS WILL NOW RUN AS ITE
Prepared Endurance (PE) now (ITE)
Any tub chassis production vehicle running with DOT tires.
Preparation Rules –
1. Sound – PE cars shall run mufflers, and shall not exceed 90dbA, at Laguna Seca only, at any time during a competition. International Sedans may modify the floor pan/rocker panel sections.

SAN FRANCISCO REGION
SUPER PRODUCTION (SP) CLASS RULES
Super Production Class (SP) (Regional Class Only): Cars which exceed the preparation limitations of the applicable Production or GT Specifications but which meet the general regulations of Section 17 of the GCR for GT category cars. Aerodynamic devices are permitted.

 

I was looking for a class more where I could run a slightly modified car, but basically a stock one. I'm actually going to be taking a few of those driving school courses next summer because my friend's husband is a teacher at one of the courses. I jsut wanted to start looking into classes now so I could see what was allowed to our cars, and what isn't.

 

Ok, sorta like me a year ago.

Well, I'd find someone that can do the safety prep well, add a few critical things for reliability, and go to the school. Thats what I did.

I'm sure my car would not be ITE competitive, but it was a way to learn with what I had, and make sure it was a hobby I'd really enjoy.

bobc

 

Honestly, you are better off trying to find a series with a class that will accomodate F-bodies with only mild changes as opposed to fitting in the SCCA ITE class. The ITE class will put you against much more expensive machines(Viper, Porsche, Corvettes, M3) and you will probably not be competitive. I know we all say it's just for fun but I am sure you would like to have a reasonable chance of winning and running up front. I am not saying ITE can't be won with an F-body or you won't have fun but to be competitive you will need to spend alot of money. I know because I am also preparing a 1994 Z for ITE and wish I never went this far. I made the mistake of over-modifying for Solo 1 and now I can't go back. Also, some ITE fields are very small so not much to play with. I have seen a bunch of other series that don't require a great deal of upgrades for certain classes and the fields are huge. If a couple of exotics from the World Challenge series show up at an ITE race with good drivers, you are already looking at running by yourself and that is not fun no matter what your intentions.

 

http://www.americanironwest.com/

That's where you belong. This whole organization was invented to get Mustangs racing against Camaros.

It sounds like you understand you can't go wheel to wheel right away. That's good. Attend some HPDE events with http://www.nasaproracing.com/ , learn to drive the track and watch the race all in the same weekend.

 

blksgZ28,

I see you seem to be from the San Francisco area. I have been racing in this region for 10 years. I am building a 1994 Z28 because all my time has been in a Datsun 510 and I wanted more speed/power--AND I LOVE CAMARO's. In our region, a 1994 Z28 regularly runs 2nd in each race and has finished 2nd in points for the year. Also, typically there are 15+ ITE entrants per weekend.

That said, I would agree with some of the other posts here. It will be expensive to run up front. But if you read the rules that BobC posted you can see how you fit....the only rules are basically DOT tires and a tub (i.e. NOT tube) frame car. There are two ways to look at this. 1. You can build a moderately modified car (with all the safety features that SCCA requires) and run and "just have fun." Chrisbarr is right, any World Challenge car can show up, or there are some fast cars running in this class currently, that will make you WORK to be competitive.

Bottom line...If you just want to have fun with a few mods, you can play here...but if you are competitive, and want to be fast, expect to spend $$$.

One other thing, I think you mentioned that you wanted the car to be streetable at the same time. I have seen a few try this in my 10 years in the SCCA but sooner or later have a dual purpose car ends up not working out

Randy

 

Just to illustrate the difference in regions, out here on the East coast, some ITE fields may have 7-10 cars and other races have 3. I think the ITE class was born in the Wash DC region and they usually have good fields with Vipers and some ex-WC and Grand Am 993's and 996's, Corvettes and other serious machines. Then you might have a race at Watkins Glen or Pocono with 3 cars that were just not able to race anywhere else, maybe a 944T or a Firebird/Camaro. So being competitive depends on where you run and who shows up.
And as Randy said, I strongly suggest you get a car just for the track. If you are thinking ITE, I doubt you will want to use it for the street as well. I started out in Solo1 with my 94 as a dual purpose car but by the second year was trailering it. Now, after about 12K in mods this past year, it is not even remotely streetable and still will be struggling to catch a Viper or a Porsche.
Keep the car close to stock, learn how to drive it at the limit that way, have fun and then decide if you really want to invest thousands more to have the same amount of fun you had with money in your pocket.

 

To back up the above, my 95 Formula was originally going to be driven to/from the local (Blackhawk Farms is 90 mi away) track, but after all the opti problems initially, I got scared and bought a big van and trailer just to know I'd be able to get home. There are a few Miata's/Honda's that drive to the track, but they are rare, except for people that live real close. Also, if you are running $4.00/gal gas, you hate to waste what's in the tank driving home on it.

BobC