Appearance Hoods, spoilers, custom mods, accessories, etc.
View Poll Results: Which Concept Sunoco Hood Do You Like Best?
#1
4
25.00%
#2
3
18.75%
#3
2
12.50%
#4
4
25.00%
Don't like any of them
3
18.75%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:51 PM
  #16  
thesoundandthefury's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 862
From: Columbus, IN
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Originally Posted by GetaZforgetGT
I was going to PM this to fury and tfs95z28 just to keep the thread clean but why not just post it here and keep the interest up.

The Sunoco hood uses more of a 45deg drop from the top of the cowl.
VFN is a 90deg drop and some have mentioned how they don't like the straight drop.

Whoa now, hold the phone that looks pretty damn good. Tfs95z28 and I were afraid that the round ridges over the top of the square stock headlights wouldn't flow together well, but it's not too bad. Gonna digest this one for awhile.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:57 PM
  #17  
GetaZforgetGT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 874
From: Carlisle, PA
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

I like how the inside line the would normally line up with the inside of the LS1 lights still lines up with the inside of the LT1 lights.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:00 PM
  #18  
GetaZforgetGT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 874
From: Carlisle, PA
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

One more thing....I have never met fury or Tfs95z28 but we accomplished more with small quick replies than I get done from 3 hours worth of meets at work...kinda funny how that works.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:08 PM
  #19  
Chrisbequick's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1998
Posts: 669
From: Kansas City
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Originally Posted by GetaZforgetGT
I was going to PM this to fury and tfs95z28 just to keep the thread clean but why not just post it here and keep the interest up.

The Sunoco hood uses more of a 45deg drop from the top of the cowl.
VFN is a 90deg drop and some have mentioned how they don't like the straight drop.

I like that one.

-Chris
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:11 PM
  #20  
Brangeta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,557
From: Dallas, Texas
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Originally Posted by GetaZforgetGT
Brangeta, what app did you design yours in? I like the effect that has and I don't have it in my Photoshop that I know of but I'm fairly new to the photoshop game so I could have missed it.
I actually went back and forth between Jasc Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop to work on it. Corel now owns Paint Shop Pro, but my version is old. PSP is compatible with Photoshop (you can save in PSD format) so it's pretty easy. The only problem is that PSD files don't support vector layers other than text, so when you bring it into photoshop and then back to PSP, all of your old vector layers have been rasterized.

Anyway, in PSP, there is a pen tool that will create vector graphics on a separate layer from other stuff. In Photoshop you can't do that, you have to do that type of stuff in Adobe Illustrator, but what sucks about Illustrator is that you can't do NON-vector graphics in it. So you can't just go back and forth b/t it and Photoshop. Adobe it really annoying overall for how much they suck at making a program that does everything.

Long story short, PSP used to only be about $40 I think, so you might want to pick up a copy off eBay. I use version 7.0 on Windows XP, and the newest version is 10.0. It isn't available for Mac.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:14 PM
  #21  
GetaZforgetGT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 874
From: Carlisle, PA
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Very cool thanks man.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:16 PM
  #22  
tfs95z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 660
From: Cary, IL
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

GetaZforgetGT... he probably used Adobe Illustrator and traced a hood that he found online. I guess i should have mentioned that I am a graphic designer... LOL

I just saw that you were on a roll with your photochopping, so I just let you take over...

Back on track here... that LS1 Sunoco hood you put on the black Z just doenst look right with those LS1 ridges... and yes... Brangeta pretty much just drew VFN's cowl hood, ours is a little more streamlined and still has some hard edges to stay with the overall style of the LT1's (ie the vent lines and center indentation in cowl)
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:22 PM
  #23  
tfs95z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 660
From: Cary, IL
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

I still dont like the lines of the LS1 hood with the LT1 body, doesnt look right to me, its different just lookin at an image like that rather than in person... I doubt anybody would like it after taking a long look at the fitment, Photoshop is very forgiving.

Brangeta, that hood you drew looks like vector art to me... i could make that exact hood in Illustrator using gradients and line art. Adobe products are where it is at. Oh yeah, they do have a program that "tries" to combine Photoshop and Illustrator called InDesign, but it is more of a page layout program than an image manipulation program like photoshop

Last edited by tfs95z28; Jun 14, 2006 at 02:25 PM.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:24 PM
  #24  
Brangeta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,557
From: Dallas, Texas
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Mmmmmm, I didn't trace anything. I drew that on the car in PSP without anything to reference except a pic of the Sunoco Camaro.

I'm an advertising major and work at a newspaper, so I do a lot of graphics work... hate Illustrator though. Photoshop and InDesign are great, even if Photoshop is horribly lacking in the vector graphics area.

Illustrator... it sucks for tracing. Good for creation of logos, but god awful and inconvenient for tracing or drawing something on top of a raster image.

PSP isn't perfect though. It can't save AI or EPS files and retain the vector graphics; they get rasterized. You only have 3 options if you want vectors: psp (native file format), wmf (windows meta file), or emf (enhanced metafile). wmf and emf suck though, when you save as one of those and go back in for editing (in Illustrator for example) your bezier curves are converted to dozens of anchor points which both makes it a pain in the butt to work with AND makes it jagged.

Not sure if the new version of PSP can actually save an EPS or AI properly now or not...
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:28 PM
  #25  
GetaZforgetGT's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 874
From: Carlisle, PA
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Quick one to get rid of the lines...one side looks good the other just got a little FUBAR'd.

Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:29 PM
  #26  
tfs95z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 660
From: Cary, IL
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

i use illustrator for tracing over raster images all the time. Unless it is low quality/very small it is very easy to do. I do graphics all day long at my job and work only with Adobe programs because they are the best and most widely accepted of any art programs. But to each his own... lets keep this topic on hand.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:29 PM
  #27  
Brangeta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,557
From: Dallas, Texas
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Whoa, now that's lookin' pretty cool. I'd never put a cowl on my car, but damn, that's lookin cool.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:31 PM
  #28  
tfs95z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 660
From: Cary, IL
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

i like tha too, but i still think it needs the vent lines in the hood to make it look more "at home" with the style of the LT1
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:35 PM
  #29  
Brangeta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,557
From: Dallas, Texas
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Originally Posted by tfs95z28
i use illustrator for tracing over raster images all the time. Unless it is low quality/very small it is very easy to do. I do graphics all day long at my job and work only with Adobe programs because they are the best and most widely accepted of any art programs. But to each his own... lets keep this topic on hand.
I wouldn't really say Adobe programs are the best in every area, but overall, they probably are. It'd be nice if all of the keyboard shortcuts matched up b/t the programs though. I get sick and tired of undoing my command+D/Ctrl+D just because Illustrator doesn't use that for "Place"

Sucks that they are the most widely accepted, but I gotta agree. If PSP were Mac compatible, I bet they would compete w/ Photoshop a lot better like they did about 5 years ago. Now Corel photopaint/draw is their top competitor I believe.

Oh, and if it was Mac compatible, I wouldn't have to keep buying PCs either
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:41 PM
  #30  
thesoundandthefury's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 862
From: Columbus, IN
Re: Sunoco Concept Hood for 93-97 Camaros (Opinions Needed!)

Thoughts about the LS1 Sunoco chop: it almost wants to flow but doesn't quite get there all the way. I agree with GetaZ that it's pretty cool and coincidental that the inner lines of the ridges line up with the headlight coves, but it's those damn headlights themselves that're holding things up. I'm thinking that maybe if whoever were to buy a hood like this were to also do a round headlight conversion, it might flow right. (Basically giving off a similar vibe to the "Whistler" mod that the LS1 guys do.) In my mind's eye, the headlights clashing with the ridges are going to become ten times more obvious when viewing the car from a head on perspective. (Or rearview mirror.) Just a gut feeling.

I still have to say that the hood we made goes better with the LT1 theme. Has more of that "sawed-off edgyness" to it.

Last edited by thesoundandthefury; Jun 14, 2006 at 03:02 PM.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:50 PM.