Why is it that there once I open the door to pump gas there is mud everywhere? On the fuel cap and everything. I don't want this obviously because if any of it gets in my gas tank my car is pretty screwed. If somebody could take a picture of what it looks like when they open their fuel door so i can see what it is supposed to look like then I might be able to see whats wrong

 

There are no plastic covers in the back, its just like that. I hate it too.

 

wow ....terrible job on behalf of the design team who thought that one up. Well I will change the thread to ....Has anybody done anything to fix this problem?

 

Keep your car on the road like it was designed to be and you wont have the problem of having mud all over it and the chance of it getting in your gas tank.

Also, if i were swearing the design team of the f body for anything, it wouldnt be because i had mud on my gas cap

 

I am in the same boat my friend. I also am missing the splash guard that goes directly in front of the gas cap inside the wheel well. If you notice inside the wheel well there two small holes in the rear on the sides and a small flange that hangs down near the gas cap assembly. I havent been able to find a part # mostly cause I havent looked hard enough. I have seen other camaros with that splash guard in place, someone may know of a part # on the site.

 

I do keep my car on the road but i live on a dirt road. And other than that I don't have anything to really complain about. Things could be better i guess but nothing that makes the car less fun to have. So does anybody have that part number BlackThunder50 is looking for?

 

I don't get it, are you missing the inner fender cover that protects your Evap Emissions Canister? Missing the shrowd (sp?) that surrounds the gas filler pipe? Or not missing anything at all and just having a problem I've never experienced? Is it possible that your gas door is just misaligned?

Could you post a pic of what you are talking about? I recently worked on the '95 Z28 in that area, and might be able to tell you what's up.

 

The part you are looking for is called a fuel pocket. GM part #10429538

 

well this is my problem.....it looks extra bad right now because i took the pictures just now and it is raining. But it shows how bad it can get. Who honestly wants this...

 

Along the same lines, I've discovered that the (fake) air extractor vents on the side of my '99 Trans Am actually have a purpose: they let dirt, gravel and water into the door hinge area, and along the sill below the doors. This area is always completely filthy. I'm going to go out in a few minutes and try and clean it up (again).

I guess I will add this to my other observations, such as water spraying inside the car when I take it through a car wash, water pouring into the back seat when the hatch is opened, the tumor on the passenger side floorboard, the lack of telescoping steering wheel, the engine buried half under the dash, the pathetic headlights, poor quality plastic and "leather" etc.

Owning one of these cars is not a rational decision. I've owned four (1987 IROC, 1991 GTA, 2000 SS, and 1999 TA), and have loved them all. But I really wish the engineers at GM would spend more time testing the cars in the real world (where it rains, and snows), and less time tweaking the styling.

GM has had a very bad habit of leaving the developmental testing to the owners; by the time the litany of complaints from the owners of a new model have been somewhat addressed, the vehicles reputation is so tarnished that there is no alternative but to cancel it (examples? Pontiac Fiero, Cadillac Allante)

I will take a careful look at the 2009 Camaro (assuming that it actually gets produced), but unless it shows enormous improvement in design over the Camaros that came before it, my latest F-body will likely be my last F-body.

 

I couldn't get those pictures to work, but based on your description, it sounds like you are missing the inner shrowd that surrounded the gas filler pipe. I wish I could see the pictures though, just to make sure I understoof you correctly though.

Patrick--
Well, in the case of the 4th gens, it was all about style in my opinion. You have to make some compromises to have a car with the steepest windshield this side of a Lamborghini Murcielago and an engine too big to fit further forward in the car. Women will wear the most uncomfortable high heels in the world, just because they think they look good, and we buy cars just because they look good sometimes .

Since the 5th gen is a more generically proportioned shape, I bet it won't have many problems where the style interferes with the function. Unlike the 4th gen, they aren't trying to cram 10 pounds of stuff into something that only holds 8 to 9 pounds worth of stuff. But hey... I'd rather have something that doesn't look like everything else on the road if it makes me feel stylish...

Of course, I say that now.... but that's because I haven't been bothered by my manifold leak enough to figure out how to get the engine dropped out of the car to have the gasket changed. Haven't changed the spark plugs either. I might just change my mind about this form over function thing .

 

try this link to the pics instead...

 

Brangeta - I hear you on the form over function thing. And I must like the cars, I keep buying them!!

Regarding the spark plugs, I approached the job with some reluctance, having been told by various people that it was a miserable task on the LS1, given its position in the 4th Gen engine bay. However, it was not difficult, nor particulary awkward to do. The drivers side plugs were a snap, and the passenger side plugs (even the back two) were accessible too, as long as the coil pack on that side was unbolted, and moved aside. Total time? About 1.5 hours, including two breaks.

Returning to the topic of a future Camaro's form vs its function, heres what I want to see in a 2009 Camaro: an engine bay that encourages, rather than discourages, owners to do work under the hood. A HVAC system that is up to the job. A trunk (not a hatchback) that offers useable space. Fit and finish on par with the Japanese. Materials that belong in a nearly $30,000 car (which is probably what the Z/28 or (fingers crossed) SS will cost). And a comprehensive warranty.

If GM offers all that in its new Camaro, my 1999 Firehawk will find itself sharing the garage!

 

Holy crap dude! That sucks! You're missing BOTH the fuel filler shrowd AND the evap emissions canister cover.

I'm going to try to help you out and find the part numbers for you. I don't remember what year car you have, so they might not be accurate.... I'll post what I find in a separate reply.

 

ok, for a 2001 Camaro, these are the parts I think (note: don't take my word for it, you might want to ask someone with the Shop/Service Manual for a Camaro. These parts should be universal, meaning the same for all years between '93 and '02 as far as I know):
FILLER NECK SHIELD Part #: 10132511
and
FUEL FILLER POCKET Part #: 10315913

I can't for the life of me figure out if the cover you lack is called "filler neck shield" though. I think you would have better luck at a junkyard than anything else. In order to access this panel, the driver-rear wheel must be removed and then the panel can be removed/put on with 1 screw/bolt... or maybe it is 2...

Here are some pics I took. I'll try to get a better one of the panel you lack when the '95 Z28 is at home, my sister has it right now.