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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Best way for HID's on a 72 camaro

We are restoring a 1972 camaro want to upgrade the headlights. I found this something on ebay by searching "72 camaro projector" and found something but for only 2 dollars somethings fishy. We really want to put hid's in it but would like a more modern headlight housing. Anyone have any experience with this. Thanks
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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To just install HIDs themselves would require some custom bracket work I imagine, but then you would have that non-OEM headlight look because there would be no projector.

I am trying to picture how this could work. I'm wondering if there is a way for you to cut the back of a sealed beam headlight out and put the HID bulb inside it?

In the end it would be something like this:


Different bulb, same sealed beam look.

Any idea where you can mount your ballasts? Sorry I can't help you more.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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You can get HID Bulb conversion kits, but as stated with a sealed beam you'd have to cut open the sealed beam light and match up to closest bulb size.

I know the 93-97 4th Gens actually use 9005 & 9006 bulbs, so you can heat them up and then swap them out. Not sure about a 72 though.

Another option would be a custom build with something like a Hella or some other aftermarket light. Hella has quite the selection of round lights, you may actually find one that's very close in size to current lighting.

Last option would be to keep the existing headlights and and mount some driving lights into the front grill, and if you wanted even go HID in those.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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You can do a composite headlamp kit and then buy a hid kit with the right bulb for the composite headlamp. Heres a link to the composite headlamp kit, you may be able to just buy the housing and then buy an hid kit seperate. Not as good as a projector set-up but its an option.

http://www.ecklerscamaro.com/product...1&dept_id=1379
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by redsap05
We are restoring a 1972 camaro want to upgrade the headlights. I found this something on ebay by searching "72 camaro projector" and found something but for only 2 dollars somethings fishy. We really want to put hid's in it but would like a more modern headlight housing. Anyone have any experience with this. Thanks
If you want it done right, and not some knock off while appearing close to stock in appearance, it is going to cost you. For HID to work right, it has to been in a housing designed for HID. This means projector...period.

The '72 Camaro headlight lens should be 7" diameter. This one is 6.88" and easy enough to work with being slightly smaller then larger. Enjoy!

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4261

Yes, the price listed is for each light!
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wraith
If you want it done right, and not some knock off while appearing close to stock in appearance, it is going to cost you. For HID to work right, it has to been in a housing designed for HID. This means projector...period.

The '72 Camaro headlight lens should be 7" diameter. This one is 6.88" and easy enough to work with being slightly smaller then larger. Enjoy!

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4261

Yes, the price listed is for each light!
Problem there is that the beam pattern is 'Driving Light' (15 Deg wide beam pattern)

So great for additional light, but really bad for the main headlight You'll never see anything except what's directly in front of you
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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Not all hid headlights are in projectors , IS300, GS300, Nissan Maxima, and many others come from the factory non projector. The projector is the best choice since it does produce a crisp cutoff, but it can be a pain to retrofit them into another housing while making them function properly and look good too.
Old Apr 8, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wraith
If you want it done right, and not some knock off while appearing close to stock in appearance, it is going to cost you. For HID to work right, it has to been in a housing designed for HID. This means projector...period.

The '72 Camaro headlight lens should be 7" diameter. This one is 6.88" and easy enough to work with being slightly smaller then larger. Enjoy!

http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=4261

Yes, the price listed is for each light!
you say hid's HAVE to be in projectors but wat u posted is not a projector.

i have h4 conversion 4x6 housings with bi-xenon hid in them now. it has a damn good shield in it...when u flick to hi beam the bulb moves and shoots the light upward for high beam.

next step: buying these, and mounting them inside my h4 conversion housings. then use another hi beam hid kit for the inside lights.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJE...3A1|240%3A1318
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Try this guy. http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
Buy the 7" round lights with the H4 bulbs. These can then be easily mod'ed to HID.
Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Problem there is that the beam pattern is 'Driving Light' (15 Deg wide beam pattern)

So great for additional light, but really bad for the main headlight You'll never see anything except what's directly in front of you
That is what upgrading your factory fogs are for

Originally Posted by CaliChevyLover
you say hid's HAVE to be in projectors but wat u posted is not a projector.

i have h4 conversion 4x6 housings with bi-xenon hid in them now. it has a damn good shield in it...when u flick to hi beam the bulb moves and shoots the light upward for high beam.

next step: buying these, and mounting them inside my h4 conversion housings. then use another hi beam hid kit for the inside lights.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PROJE...3A1|240%3A1318
I realize what I posted is not a projector, but as I also stated a HID is best used with housing designed for it...which that is. A projector is best overall, but a housing (non projector) designed for HID is second best to that and WAY superior to a halogen based housing with a retrofit. It’s a compromise trying to put HID in a car that uses a 7" lens and implement everything while looking stock.
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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That is what upgrading your factory fogs are for
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So you're suggesting flooding the road directly in front of you with light, but you STILL WON'T SEE THE DEER RUNNING FROM THE SIDE UNTIL IT HITS YOU (OR BETTER YET THE PERSON ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD (TILL YOU HIT THEM))... Good luck with that

You are missing the point... It's not just about how bright the light is, it has to do with where it goes... and not having a wider beam light you're missing the edges of the road, which is just plain stupid...

But hey you go ahead and build your light setup any way you want, but pardon me if I don't follow you're advice here....
Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 96 Z 28
So you're suggesting flooding the road directly in front of you with light, but you STILL WON'T SEE THE DEER RUNNING FROM THE SIDE UNTIL IT HITS YOU (OR BETTER YET THE PERSON ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD (TILL YOU HIT THEM))... Good luck with that

You are missing the point... It's not just about how bright the light is, it has to do with where it goes... and not having a wider beam light you're missing the edges of the road, which is just plain stupid...

But hey you go ahead and build your light setup any way you want, but pardon me if I don't follow you're advice here....
You are missing the point. I am not talking about throwing as much light as possible on the road in front of you, you can get fogs that will surpass stock headlights in field of view to the sides and in front of the car WITHOUT blinding oncoming traffic. CATZ MSR's or MSP's were a great example of a light that did just that, you could run them with your headlights off and not notice the difference. You also never had issues with oncoming traffic being blinded.

I won't be offended since I never stated this was is his only option, my word is gospel or any other presumption you have made from my post. Again you ASSume too much.

Glad to see the mentality of the lounge is still filling the posts of the Appearance section after all these years.
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