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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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93-97 Formula Fixed Headlight Set-Up

The motors are going out on my 94 formula. Does anybody have any idea on how to make them a fixed unit. Any ideas would be great..
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Any Ideas?????
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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In reality I doubt it can be done... there is not enough vertical distance to do a fixed headlight setup.

I know someone else is working on a lazy-eye setup, as well as I am. Mine isn't far along, I've been WAY to busy with life and work lately, but I have all the parts sitting on my desk at work...
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by 97FormulaWS-6
In reality I doubt it can be done... there is not enough vertical distance to do a fixed headlight setup


It could easily be done. Would be alot of custom fabrication.
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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It could easily be done. Would be alot of custom fabrication.
I've looked at it.. and to find a bulb/light that will get enough light out of that small of a vertical distance.... that'll be a feat... the only way I see it hapening would be to "bump" the hole up and do something like that, but I personally don't think it would look that good...
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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I've looked at it.. and to find a bulb/light that will get enough light out of that small of a vertical distance.... that'll be a feat... the only way I see it hapening would be to "bump" the hole up and do something like that
You wouldn't have to bump the hole up, but you are right, only projector beams will work.. basically just like this:

http://stratos.motorsport.com/photos...tl-rs-0470.jpg
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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thier is a way to do it

if you could use hid's like the ones hella sells and make a half trapazoid like shape with plexiglass it could happen. i have been looking into the came thing. it won't be flat like the ones in the picture but it won't be mobile liek the ones we have. keep this thread going cause thier are alot of intelligent people out thier with alot of ideas
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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*Shrugs*... let's just say I've been working on a set of different headlight for my car since I bought it 4 years ago... Could it be done? yes, but I don't think the results would be that great, infact I think the lighting performance would be worse than it it stock.

And the projector idea won't work, there is NOT enough vertical distance to fit a Projector. Intact I'm staring straight at the Hella E-Code Bi-xenon Projectors that I'm fitting into my lazy eye headlights. And to JUST to that I've got to cut away some of the Radiator core support to clear the back of the bulb where the Hi-Voltage wire enters. Not to mention the body of the Projector is about 4" in diameter, and this is average.

I've got about 6 different types of HID Projectors sitting here on my desk, Hella, Valeo, and some others I can't identify. Both Xenon, and Bi-xenon. None will really fit in the vertical distance you have with a fixed setup.

Assuming a fixed idea worked, and you were to do projectors, You'd REALLY have to cut the core support to get the projector to sit back enough to get the light out of the hole in the hood.

But if people are willing to try, I'll be willing to bow down in being wrong, heck I have been plenty of times before. But this what I've seen from looking and trying to fit all sorts of things in for headlights... not to mention I work for a Lighting company...
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Lets keep this going guys...
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by 97FormulaWS-6
... not to mention I work for a Lighting company...
Off topic: What the cheapest price you can get me on (4) Hella H7 e-code 90mm projectors ?

On topic: From your description above it sounds like "depth" is the problem and not vertical / hortizontal clearance.

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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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thats why im saying it can't be flush with the hood or fenders. you have to make it as far back as possible and then have a 2 section cover on it. i can't think of anything off the top of my head but i know i have seen a few cars that do this. i will get back to you when i figure it out.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by pu12en12g
Off topic: What the cheapest price you can get me on (4) Hella H7 e-code 90mm projectors ?

On topic: From your description above it sounds like "depth" is the problem and not vertical / hortizontal clearance.
Look online, Hella is a competator.. I can only get their stuff on-line as well...

The horizontal isn't a problem... the vertical is.. the vertical change from front to back is ~ 2-3", the smallest projector is 3.5" diameter at the lens, and the typical reflector portion of the Projector starts at 4" diameter... this is where the BIG problem comes in...

A Hella 75 setup like the Camaro guys use could work, but it'd only be low beams... and I don't think the light output would be that great either with that setup... but that's me, and I'm used to dealing with HID and VERY intense LED lighting...
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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ya i understand verticle is the problem but don't let it be. to me fixed headlights aren't supposed to be low or flush or anything like that they are fixed. thats it. as long as they aren't as high as or and obtrusive as the pop up ones. but they need to be fixed. thats all im trying to say.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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Read my 2nd post on this topic... that's going to be your only way to do the fixed headlight... with a bump... or bumps...

and if you pull it off, I'd love to see pictures...
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by 97FormulaWS-6
Look online, Hella is a competator.. I can only get their stuff on-line as well...
Yeah the euro ones are a "grey import". Hard to get.

Anyways, someone retrofitted an Audi projector in his Z. Those things are tiny. Pretty sure those would fit. I'll try and find the post



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