Advanced Tech Advanced tech discussion. Major rebuilds, engine theory, etc.
HIGH-END DISCUSSION ONLY - NOT FOR GENERAL TECH INFO

std. 1.7 roller rockers?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 11:18 PM
  #31  
Jason Short's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 3,051
From: Rochester, NY USA
Nice, glad to hear that you are into high end engine building....I have actually been semi-looking for someone local to me if I decide to freshen my bottom end this winter/next summer.

Jason
Old Oct 11, 2002 | 07:12 PM
  #32  
SStrokerAce's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,518
Originally posted by Jason Short
Nice, glad to hear that you are into high end engine building....I have actually been semi-looking for someone local to me if I decide to freshen my bottom end this winter/next summer.

Jason
Jason,

Do you just need a new set of rings, bearings, and springs? or do you want to upgrade. BTW what do you have in mods?

Bret
Old Oct 12, 2002 | 08:08 AM
  #33  
Jason Short's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 3,051
From: Rochester, NY USA
Either way I defintaly need to change out my valvesprings while the car is put away for the winter. Probably going to do a ring/bearing sometime next year...for now it is fine. I wouldnt upgrade at all since the internals are all forged, just refreshening.

The motor is 396ci LT1/LT4, forged/splayed bottom end, solid roller, AFR 210s, stud girdle, monoblade, etc...

Hopefully we can get together sometime this year at the track and meet. I am planning on being at NYI on Oct 27 and Nov 3.

Jason
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 10:48 PM
  #34  
vette40th's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 151
I think a 1.7 roller rocker, besides increasing lift, is faster at opening or something to the effest of increasing velocity, as it has to open the valve to a higher lift in the same amount of time than a 1.5. I think it does increase velocitym maybe thats why the Big Bolcks, LS-1's and some Fords use them????
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:34 PM
  #35  
SStrokerAce's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,518
Originally posted by vette40th
I think a 1.7 roller rocker, besides increasing lift, is faster at opening or something to the effest of increasing velocity, as it has to open the valve to a higher lift in the same amount of time than a 1.5. I think it does increase velocitym maybe thats why the Big Bolcks, LS-1's and some Fords use them????
Most engines use a 1.7 to get more lift. The Clevland Fords, the LS1 and the BBC all need more airflow to make the power they do.

A larger rocker arm will increase duration at .050 a bit and it's major benefit is that it opens the valve farther to get more area under the curve with the same duration.

Bret
Old Nov 5, 2002 | 11:48 PM
  #36  
vette40th's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 151
ANy idea how much more duration at .050 there is, is itas easy as saying 230 degrees at .050 for a 1.5, then divide by 1.5, and then multiply by 1.7 to get the new duration. I are no mathmetician?
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:23 AM
  #37  
4drLT4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 229
From: NorCal
You got it Vette...that's how to go about it.
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:55 AM
  #38  
Eric Bryant's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,400
From: Michigan's left coast
Sorry guys, but you can't figure out the duration increase that easily, as the ramp has a definite starting and ending point. Simply dividing by the old rocker ratio and multiplying by the new ratio works fine for lift, but you'll need cam profile data to accurately predict the duration change.

Hope this helps,
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:39 AM
  #39  
vette40th's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 151
Anohter person actually used a dial indicator on hi smotor while he was putting it together and got , from a 224 degree cam, and additional 1.2 degrees, when he went from 1.5 to 1.6 rockers.
Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:16 PM
  #40  
4drLT4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 229
From: NorCal
Originally posted by Eric Bryant
Sorry guys, but you can't figure out the duration increase that easily, as the ramp has a definite starting and ending point. Simply dividing by the old rocker ratio and multiplying by the new ratio works fine for lift, but you'll need cam profile data to accurately predict the duration change.

Hope this helps,

Eric...

You are correct of course. I misread Vette's post, and thought he was looking for lift calculations...
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
13qtr
Parts For Sale
24
Oct 28, 2016 08:11 PM
95chwagon
Parts For Sale
5
Oct 16, 2015 12:24 PM
football4life
Cars For Sale
2
Oct 4, 2015 07:48 AM
9t4lt4z28
LT1 Based Engine Tech
1
Oct 2, 2015 10:28 AM
Z Power
LT1 Based Engine Tech
8
Sep 19, 2015 11:19 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 PM.