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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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Question about my Dynamic number

Looking for some advice from the masters in here

Ok I ran my combo and it's coming in at 9.79:1 for the DCR. Will I be able to pull off the switch down too pump gas... 93 octane?. I picked up a water injection system and will be adding this to the package. My next thoughts are about wot timing and how much to start with. On motor I'm thinking 30 degrees and on hose 22 degrees on a 200 hit.
I'm thinking of opening up the coolant bleed pipe assembley to a -6 line assembly in place of the tiny factory stuff used. I'm doing this in hopes of adding a little more coolant flow in the heads.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Is this with a solid roller or a hyd roller?

9.8:1 DCR is really high Hawk! How did you get at that combo?

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Spoke with a few people (including the makers of Evans coolant) about the bleed line myself with the same interest.

I was told that line is for essentially preventing vapor pockets & enlarging it would reduce coolant flow downward through the block by bypassing it back to the rad, reducing potential cooling insted of improving it. Flow would go in the front of the head & out the back instead of through the block.

This is opposite of the added coolant lines on a conventional SBC where this is an improvement.
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Lonnie Pavtis
Spoke with a few people (including the makers of Evans coolant) about the bleed line myself with the same interest.

I was told that line is for essentially preventing vapor pockets & enlarging it would reduce coolant flow downward through the block by bypassing it back to the rad, reducing potential cooling insted of improving it. Flow would go in the front of the head & out the back instead of through the block.

This is opposite of the added coolant lines on a conventional SBC where this is an improvement.
Wow, thats interesting. I opened up the passage and put the larger line on my old combo with the thought of having more flow being better.
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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I thought the exact same thing & by chance this came up in conversation.
After thinking it out, it makes sense.

I used to modify old SBC's with external lines back to the 'stat housing from the top & bottom centers of the heads...... Brodix heads even comes with tapped holes ready to install them. This modification on an LT1 seemed a natural, until further thought proved otherwise.
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Is this with a solid roller or a hyd roller?

9.8:1 DCR is really high Hawk! How did you get at that combo?

Bret
I used my info on the dcr calculator at smokeumup.com and it gave me the number. Here's a screen print of it www.hotrodhawk.com/dcr.htm
Could this be incorrect?
The cams a hyd roller

My actual cranking compression on a guage is 190 . The motor temp was around
120 when I took the readings.

Thank you Lonnie for that info on the coolant line, I'll steer clear of the bigger line mod.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Jeff, Which head gaskets are you running?
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Hawk,

Your using the intake valve closing at at .050", you have to use the actual closing point of the valve and it will give you the right DCR.

What's your static compression, cubes, rod length and intake lobe/specs?

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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My bad Ken the cometics I'm using are 4.040 bore/ .040 thick.
That will bring the number down alittle.

Bret
Static compression 12.9,355 cubes, 6" rod length and Comp #3317s intake lobe @ 112.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Hawk,

That works out to a 8.72:1 DCR

Try 81 for the closing event on your calculator and you should get close to that.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Thank you Bret
..so would you say she's safe for 92 octane with the above total timing?
I'm about ready for "tires to pavement" this coming weekend and looking forward to some much needed HP under the right foot
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Thank you Bret
..so would you say she's safe for 92 octane with the above total timing?
I'm about ready for "tires to pavement" this coming weekend and looking forward to some much needed HP under the right foot
30 degs total is pretty light so I would say you should be safe with that. If that's with the LT1 ECU then who knows what the timing really is, but if that's with a distributor or aftermarket ECU then you could start there and creep up on it. If you have any issues with knock it will be below TQ peak, but at the top end it's probably not going to happen.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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THANKS Bret for your time :bigbigsmile:
Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Not a problem Hawk, I want to see how that puppy does this year.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
If that's with the LT1 ECU then who knows what the timing really is, but if that's with a distributor or aftermarket ECU then you could start there and creep up on it.Bret

whats the deal with the LT1 ECU?



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