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Old Jul 6, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by Dave Feerst
I run a yank 3500 And have yet to have this problem with my 1/2 shift, mabye it has something to do with the type-f Tranny fluid yank told me to use?? I havent tried slicks yet...
Thats when it usually happens bro. When you get your tires to really hook is when this problem usually happens. Put some et streets on that bad boy and launch her and see what ahppens
Old Jul 6, 2003 | 11:43 PM
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EWWWWW! Type-F! ICK!

The problem usually happens with good hard launches when the foot stall is over 2,400 at the line and the flash is hard.

BTW Saying type-f is the fix to this problem is like saying exlax will clean out your vanes during a heart attack

Good luck!
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Any tuners found anything to resolve this, i know Ed Wright found the fix but not a fan mail order tuning. Anybody?.......Bueller
Old Jul 24, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Call Ed. He may suprise you. You can get JUST this fix.
Old Jul 30, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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Thumbs up

Went to Ed's shop mid July and learned about the fix. Simple computer code fix just like Ellis mentioned.
I have it now but am too chicken to launch off idle to give it a real life test. I'm so used to launching from idle I couldn't imagine doing it any other way.
One thing baffles Ed and I though. My tranny will now short shift 2nd gear and go to 3rd before the programmed rpm, (If I launch from D or OD and let the tranny do the shifting). I must hold 2nd gear manually until it's time for 3rd gear.
So I have the fix, but havn't tested yet with a loaded up torque converter launch. And, I now need to hold 2nd gear manually untill it's time for 3rd, (when at WOT at the track....untested on the street).
All this experimenting was done at the wrong time though. 1st round of an important bracket race, with Ed watching at the starting line, he's talking to GMHT Performance editor Rick Jensen and saying every good thing about me that he can think of, and I go and launch and the car short shifts into 3rd gear and I run a 12.8 on a 12.3 dial. 1st round looser. D*oh!
That's ok, he and I figured I could manually shift later that night and the car became very consistant.
I think it may be my tranny's fault and not the fault of the code fix.
Karl
Old Jul 31, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Call Ed. He may suprise you. You can get JUST this fix.
come again Ellis

He wouldn't sell me just the fix, Period.
Had to buy the tuning with it and that would be fine but for me that means throw'n away ton's of hours with wide0'2 logging for open loop leaded fuel tune.
Then my LT1 edit licence would be like my fingers typing this...
.........shoved into fan blades

Nothing against fastchips tho, they have every right to control "Their Product's" use and distrubtion.
I'll just wait for Yanks Tranny tricker I guess and go electric manual valve body control.
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Old Jul 31, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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come again Ellis

He wouldn't sell me just the fix, Period.
Had to buy the tuning with it and that would be fine but for me that means throw'n away ton's of hours with wide0'2 logging for open loop leaded fuel tune.
Then my LT1 edit licence would be like my fingers typing this...
.........shoved into fan blades

Nothing against fastchips tho, they have every right to control "Their Product's" use and distrubtion.
I'll just wait for Yanks Tranny tricker I guess and go electric manual valve body control.
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So how much is it for the whole package with the fix?
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Ed Write now has the fix. he found the table. It is set from the factory at 2,400 stall. Any stall over that with less then XXMPH showing sets it in limp mode.

I am switching back to OBD-I to verify and get my WOT Lock-up back!!

www.fastchip.com

Tell Ed, Ellis Sent you!
i would get in touch with Bryan at pcms for less he has the fix i had it bad with mine and he fixed it...........for free too
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by MEAN LT1
So how much is it for the whole package with the fix?
E-mail ed wright at fast chips for your quote.
One other thing to remember is that if you have Lt-1 Edit for the pcm you send him you no longer will be able to use your owned copy of LT1 edit on that pcm. Ed protects his tunes by moving code locations to differant locations within the deal, That is a smart thing to do on his part!.
Good Luck.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Rod Hawk
E-mail ed wright at fast chips for your quote.
One other thing to remember is that if you have Lt-1 Edit for the pcm you send him you no longer will be able to use your owned copy of LT1 edit on that pcm. Ed protects his tunes by moving code locations to differant locations within the deal, That is a smart thing to do on his part!.
Good Luck.
Well, guess I'll be going to pcm4 less unless some local tuner here in florida figure it out.
Old Aug 1, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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LOL You mean until they steal Ed's fix!

Some of the best tuning out of local guys came out of Ed's shop

At least I have the ***** to tell them I am ordering it from Ed's when I need it


I have the "FIX" and a OBD-I PCM back in my car. Need to finish the tuning and I will be headed to the track for some real world testing.

Just in case I and taking my OBD-II PCM to back me up

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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
LOL You mean until they steal Ed's fix!

Some of the best tuning out of local guys came out of Ed's shop

At least I have the ***** to tell them I am ordering it from Ed's when I need it


I have the "FIX" and a OBD-I PCM back in my car. Need to finish the tuning and I will be headed to the track for some real world testing.

Just in case I and taking my OBD-II PCM to back me up
actually Bryan came up with it, ED may have gotten it from him
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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I am pretty sure that is not true
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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I am pretty sure that is not true
well when i had my stall problem i contacted Ed wright about it he said the fix he had was still giving poeple problems he originally did my programming,and it worked only with some cars.then i got LT1 edit then i got ahold of Bryan and he emailed me the fix and has worked every since then..they were both working on it together i belive for awhile...
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by AHARTZ28
well when i had my stall problem i contacted Ed wright about it he said the fix he had was still giving poeple problems he originally did my programming,and it worked only with some cars.then i got LT1 edit then i got ahold of Bryan and he emailed me the fix and has worked every since then..they were both working on it together i belive for awhile...
Well being that my car already has tuning done to it and I dont want it to be locked from. I think Im going with Byran just for the simple case that he doesnt lock me out of my own pcm.



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