the lighter brittle pistons if u had to guess

 

Maybe, but I can barely resist the tempation to throw my TV out the window when those two are on. I've only watched a few minutes of that "show" (couldnt stand anymore) and those two are the epitome of the "dumb*ss ricer" crowd.

 

I haven't seen much of a comment on how smooth inline engines are compared to V. To match the smoothness of a comparative I6, a V6 needs balance shafts and such. With an inline engine you really only have to balance the up and down shake compared to the side to side and up and down of a V. That's why I was suprised when Mercedes went to the V6 instead of the I6 that they used for years. Their only benefit was the packaging.

 

The attitude has to be there for the show but when guys like that get asked by professional race teams to fix their turbo systems you gotta look past that "ricer image". I know it doesn't mean squat here but being part of the first ever Supra to hit 10's 9's and 8's is also pretty impressive and on top of that working with Christian Rado back in the day and doing well in FWD drag racing is pretty good too. Turbo motors, especially 700+hp 2.0L ones takes alot of understanding of turbo systems and engine building. That dumb ricer image is sure a dam good cover up.

One thing about any racing is, never underestimate anyone. I've seen to many piles of junk go out and kick everyones butt that you'll learn pretty quick not to do that again. Hell I've gotten beat by some people in AutoX that you would never imagine that they would understand **** about suspension setups, well they do.

One more thing about those two, they started on old Chevelles and SBCs. That on top of the fact that they new alot about the Nissan 300ZX GTP cars gives them some "props" in my book. Being versed in alot of engines and types of racing is never a bad thing.

AdioSS, gotta agree. The BMW's and VR6's i've been in and owned have awesomely smooth motors. One thing I wish my LS1 was a little more.

Bret

 

a supra just broke into the 7s brett

 

What will really make your head hurt is that the 8 second runs were done on drag radials. I'm not sure about the 7 sec runs.

And i've seen the 1000hp supras on a stock block. Its fully forged and very well built, and shortblocks are 2500 new from toyota. Nobody really rebuilds a supra motor. Anything goes wrong, you just buy a new shortblock.

 

I suppose, but I would think being as accomplished as they are they would want to focus their efforts into bringing some credibility to import enthusiasts vs. trying to pawn off the latest in LED exhaust tips. Not that I have any room to talk, I'd sell tampons if they paid me enough to do it.

Anyhow, the point I'm trying to make is I think a non-rice import car show (like Horsepower TV but with imports) would do pretty well.

 

rofl
can't wait to see that one..... and then blow by them

 

it amazes me how the fastest FWD/Import "ricers" are the ones with no decals and if anything shave off any moding and emblems that were stock. just a clean looking car.

Neighbor has a high 11 sec honda Si with some boost (thats on race fuel) Better wasys to drop[ $38,000 but hey, its kinda cool revving that high in a little car with all the fancy computers in there.

I am never worried when i see a rediculious spoiler and retarted stickers all over the place. They will talk alot about whats coming and why I was "luckey"

 

yeah, some of them can surprise you!

down in ftlauderdale i was at a supra dyno meet and we bumped into a guy with a regular looking (other than green paint) old civic hatchback.........not really riced out or anything, just painted

smoked just about everyone in sight............runs mid 10's @ 130mph .......something like over 500 fwhp i think

from what i understand, he doesnt have an incredible amount into the car, mostly because its not flashy at all, just motor and gutted interior.

 

not to steal your thread, but I've always wondered why inline 6 always seemed to get worse gas mileage compared to a simliar V6. I know it could be gearing, but if it just seems like they all use more gas.

 

they are usually larger displacement

4.2/4.0 and some others in the 4L+ range.

Biggest V6 i can think of is the fford 4.6? after that they are all in the 3.x range

 

Can stick a good amount of that to the extra frictiong found int he motor. Not only is the rod & piston weight directly on the crank journal, its got another 3 main bearings as well.

 

You guys do know that the toyota I6 is based off of the old chevy I6 from back in the 1960's right. The top end on the Supra is different, but as for a earlier post saying how alot of money was put into R&D for those motors are right, it was done by GM back in the day. The difference in the bottom end is that the toyota is metric and the GM is standard.
Another part that Toyota has basically looked at and redid for their smaller trucks is the Ford 9 inch rear end. Toyota has basically made a smaller version of it and put on their trucks for years.
I am not bashing the I6 in the Supra, they are great motors but their heritage comes from the General. Just a little neat info, so you can talk to the import crowd about the "mighty" Supra.

 

I have only owned one six cylinder in my life, and it was a 4 liter inline six in a Jeep Cherokee. That motor was indestructable!! That motor had a ridiculous amount of torque, and didn't give me any problems. Inline sixes

John