Car will not start after FAST install
Originally posted by james94z
I hate to hear that you have had a bad experience with Precision. I have talked to them a couple of times about this and they have not been able to help any at all. They told me that the guy who does all of that work is out of town and will not be back untill Wed. I was going to have them tune the car once it was up and running, but now I don't know. Maybe I can find someone else to do it that is fairly close. Any suggestions???
I hate to hear that you have had a bad experience with Precision. I have talked to them a couple of times about this and they have not been able to help any at all. They told me that the guy who does all of that work is out of town and will not be back untill Wed. I was going to have them tune the car once it was up and running, but now I don't know. Maybe I can find someone else to do it that is fairly close. Any suggestions???
Before commiting to have it professionally tuned, I'd give it a shot yourself, or find a fellow f-body member around town that has basic tuning know-how... The FAST ecm is VERY easy to program w/ the WB02 option. You'll be amazed at how fast you learn the in's and out's of c-com.
my FAST is also from precision, but the instructions are crap. the pinouts for the GM PCM are all wrong, maybe for a 93? so anyway.. I had to just kinda guess and cross reference with my GM book.. we will see if it starts today or tomorrow
BTW 97TA-WS6-Con have you found your problem yet on the dead cylinders?
Is there anyway any of you guys could send me some pics/instructions/info on the "adapter" harness? There are a few of our distributors that sells these harness and i have only seen one which was White Racing. I would be interesting in seeing Fast Track's and Precision T/E as well! Thanks Kevin
Kevin Carnell
FAST Engineering Team
kcarnell@compcams.com
Is there anyway any of you guys could send me some pics/instructions/info on the "adapter" harness? There are a few of our distributors that sells these harness and i have only seen one which was White Racing. I would be interesting in seeing Fast Track's and Precision T/E as well! Thanks Kevin
Kevin Carnell
FAST Engineering Team
kcarnell@compcams.com
There is an 'adapter' harness and a 'splicer' harness... different animals. Only one I know that makes the adapter harness is white racing, although there might be others... I'd definitely take the adapter harness over hacking your oem harness up for the slicer harness any day. It's completely plug and chug - plug the adapter harness into the factory PCM and FAST ECM, and then the factory harness plugs into the adapter harness. No cuttng or splicing!
Originally posted by kevin97z28
BTW 97TA-WS6-Con have you found your problem yet on the dead cylinders?
Is there anyway any of you guys could send me some pics/instructions/info on the "adapter" harness? There are a few of our distributors that sells these harness and i have only seen one which was White Racing. I would be interesting in seeing Fast Track's and Precision T/E as well! Thanks Kevin
Kevin Carnell
FAST Engineering Team
kcarnell@compcams.com
BTW 97TA-WS6-Con have you found your problem yet on the dead cylinders?
Is there anyway any of you guys could send me some pics/instructions/info on the "adapter" harness? There are a few of our distributors that sells these harness and i have only seen one which was White Racing. I would be interesting in seeing Fast Track's and Precision T/E as well! Thanks Kevin
Kevin Carnell
FAST Engineering Team
kcarnell@compcams.com
Jordon,
I have my instructions from my FastTrack harness if you wanted i could scan them for you. I was able to find all the Pinouts utilizing the instructions and a Chiltons manual. I had to trace down my wiring 3 seperate times to make sure i got it right, which it was, but i still could not get the car to work with the FAST system. I had 83# injectors and i would drown the plugs with fuel all the time. Even a professional tuner couldn't get it right, but the turbo may have been locked by that point seriously complicating things.
All,
Where can you get this Plug and Play harness? website? I'd like to try that the next time i try to hook up the FAST. Also does FAST have to drive low impedence injectors? or could i use it to drive high impedence 42# Delphi's>?
I have my instructions from my FastTrack harness if you wanted i could scan them for you. I was able to find all the Pinouts utilizing the instructions and a Chiltons manual. I had to trace down my wiring 3 seperate times to make sure i got it right, which it was, but i still could not get the car to work with the FAST system. I had 83# injectors and i would drown the plugs with fuel all the time. Even a professional tuner couldn't get it right, but the turbo may have been locked by that point seriously complicating things.
All,
Where can you get this Plug and Play harness? website? I'd like to try that the next time i try to hook up the FAST. Also does FAST have to drive low impedence injectors? or could i use it to drive high impedence 42# Delphi's>?
Go to:
http://www.whiteracing.com/complete.html
There are a few pics of different interface harnesses about a 1/3 of the way down. No cutting or splicing required! I don't understand why people go with the 'splicer' harness, but the retailers must love selling them... the 'splicer' harness is just the FAST stand-alone harness that doesn't have any of the sensor weatherpacks installed.... but you pay just as much for them.
The FAST ECU can drive low or high imp. injectors.
http://www.whiteracing.com/complete.html
There are a few pics of different interface harnesses about a 1/3 of the way down. No cutting or splicing required! I don't understand why people go with the 'splicer' harness, but the retailers must love selling them... the 'splicer' harness is just the FAST stand-alone harness that doesn't have any of the sensor weatherpacks installed.... but you pay just as much for them.
The FAST ECU can drive low or high imp. injectors.
Originally posted by EddieP
Go to:
I don't understand why people go with the 'splicer' harness, but the retailers must love selling them... the 'splicer' harness is just the FAST stand-alone harness that doesn't have any of the sensor weatherpacks installed.... but you pay just as much for them.
Go to:
I don't understand why people go with the 'splicer' harness, but the retailers must love selling them... the 'splicer' harness is just the FAST stand-alone harness that doesn't have any of the sensor weatherpacks installed.... but you pay just as much for them.
I think i'll solder back in the harness before i go and drop 700 bucks with shipping on conveinence. It wasn't that hard to do and only took a few hours of my time. I'm in the wrong business
Hehe, it's not as bad as you think, once you realize what you paid for your splicer harness
Believe it or not, you probably shelled out well over $340 for that bundle of wires, and didn't even know it... Unless it's on special, most bank/bank systems with the WBo2 option and harness (splicer or stand alone) will be ~$2150 or so ($2142 from Precision turbo as of this writing... back in the good ole days, it ran me $2048). Compare that with $2342 for the same setup with the interface PCB/harness from White Racing... complete 'plug and play', no hacking up your factory harness all to hell, and the stock computer retains all the sensor inputs. The adapter PCB/harness runs exactly $200 more... well worth it to me.
Believe it or not, you probably shelled out well over $340 for that bundle of wires, and didn't even know it... Unless it's on special, most bank/bank systems with the WBo2 option and harness (splicer or stand alone) will be ~$2150 or so ($2142 from Precision turbo as of this writing... back in the good ole days, it ran me $2048). Compare that with $2342 for the same setup with the interface PCB/harness from White Racing... complete 'plug and play', no hacking up your factory harness all to hell, and the stock computer retains all the sensor inputs. The adapter PCB/harness runs exactly $200 more... well worth it to me.
Originally posted by SMOKNZ
Well i found out why people go with the 'splicer harness' because the interface harnesses cost $664
I think i'll solder back in the harness before i go and drop 700 bucks with shipping on conveinence. It wasn't that hard to do and only took a few hours of my time. I'm in the wrong business
Well i found out why people go with the 'splicer harness' because the interface harnesses cost $664
I think i'll solder back in the harness before i go and drop 700 bucks with shipping on conveinence. It wasn't that hard to do and only took a few hours of my time. I'm in the wrong business
Well if your buying the kit new then i agree its a pretty good deal, however thats not the situation i happen to be in. If it costed the same as a splicer harness, that i paid a little over $200 for i'd be willing to pay for it again, hell it couldn't be to hard to make, all i would have to do is find some male and female PCM plugs, I have all the wires and connectors and pinouts.
For the guy who has all the stuff and is looking for conveinence, this is definately not a good deal. I can find some other place to blow money that will get me alot more enjoyment.
For the guy who has all the stuff and is looking for conveinence, this is definately not a good deal. I can find some other place to blow money that will get me alot more enjoyment.
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