383s Why is every LT1 I see a Complete Turd?
383s Why is every LT1 I see a Complete Turd?
Ok in the quest that I am getting ready to build my motor, I am still stuck on wether I want to just do a 355 with about 12:1 or a 383 with the same compression. The only thing is when ever I read GM Hightech the featured cars or for a fact the recent LT1 vs LS1 shootout the 383s are JUNK!!! They run High to barley mid 11s NA with fully built 383s and A Great set of heads, where I am running a Home port head, with a Nitrous cam and run well into the 11s all day NA and 10s on spray.
I would love the extra cubes but what is with the LT1 and not working with the 383s? I see more junk ones then I do good ones. Can anyone help?
I would love the extra cubes but what is with the LT1 and not working with the 383s? I see more junk ones then I do good ones. Can anyone help?
The reason in my opinion is they do not have enough cylinder head to feed a 383 properly, and or they are cammed wrong. Hard to get stock castings to flow over 280 REAL cfm, which in my opinion is the minimum need for a 383 to be healthy. Alot of 383's have the wrong combination of parts, folks think because it works good on a 355, it should be sooo much better on a 383, not always the case.
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A high horsepower stroker LT1 can be built no problem. As with anything else, it's just the right combination of parts.
What are your goals? (rwhp/et/mph/driveability)
What are your goals? (rwhp/et/mph/driveability)
Basically I want to keep the stock appearene aka oil pan, so everyone says it can be done.
After finding that out I basically want a good nitrous motor with 12ish area for compression, get a good nitrous cam in there and have it creep low 10s or even a high 9. Right now I have done a best of a 10.60ish, and I figure if I did a good 383 and a fogger I should have no problems considering the over stock components that my engine consists of now.
I have no problem running race gas but I still want to be able to cruiz it when I want to.
After finding that out I basically want a good nitrous motor with 12ish area for compression, get a good nitrous cam in there and have it creep low 10s or even a high 9. Right now I have done a best of a 10.60ish, and I figure if I did a good 383 and a fogger I should have no problems considering the over stock components that my engine consists of now.
I have no problem running race gas but I still want to be able to cruiz it when I want to.
So you are saying that even a fully ported (good) stock casting LT1 head, it is not feeding the 383 enough. Even if it is cammed right with a TRUE (steel billet) custom cam by a professional??
I would think that 450rwhp/tq is easily attainable with stock castings and a 38x??
And that, considering it is at the right time, should be plenty for a 10 sec N/A timeslip. I mean guys runnings heads/cam+100shot are in the tens with traction right?
Throw that direct port on there with a 200shot and you are in the low 10s high 9s, all considering traction.
I would think that 450rwhp/tq is easily attainable with stock castings and a 38x??
And that, considering it is at the right time, should be plenty for a 10 sec N/A timeslip. I mean guys runnings heads/cam+100shot are in the tens with traction right?
Throw that direct port on there with a 200shot and you are in the low 10s high 9s, all considering traction.
Re: 383s Why is every LT1 I see a Complete Turd?
Originally posted by OBDIICamaro
... I am running a Home port head, with a Nitrous cam and run well into the 11s all day NA and 10s on spray.
I would love the extra cubes but what is with the LT1 and not working with the 383s? I see more junk ones then I do good ones. Can anyone help?
... I am running a Home port head, with a Nitrous cam and run well into the 11s all day NA and 10s on spray.
I would love the extra cubes but what is with the LT1 and not working with the 383s? I see more junk ones then I do good ones. Can anyone help?
I'm impressed with your 10 sec. Camaro. Post some pics and a few time slips. Don't be so shy.
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Just a few examples.
I had a 383 with GTP ported LT1 castings, ported LT1 intake, 250 duration/.600 lift solid roller.
Made 452rwhp 416rwtq through full exhaust.
Larry, who I work with, has a 96Z, 383 RGR ported LT1 heads/intake, solid roller, turbo 400. Made 420+rwhp through a loose converter, runs 11.0 @122 on motor, and 9.80's at 137 on the hose.
I think those are some good running setups for the parts they have, and theres no reason that you couldn't build a stroker LT1 to have substantially more power if you stepped up to some aftermarket heads/intake etc.
I had a 383 with GTP ported LT1 castings, ported LT1 intake, 250 duration/.600 lift solid roller.
Made 452rwhp 416rwtq through full exhaust.
Larry, who I work with, has a 96Z, 383 RGR ported LT1 heads/intake, solid roller, turbo 400. Made 420+rwhp through a loose converter, runs 11.0 @122 on motor, and 9.80's at 137 on the hose.
I think those are some good running setups for the parts they have, and theres no reason that you couldn't build a stroker LT1 to have substantially more power if you stepped up to some aftermarket heads/intake etc.
Originally posted by Bud M
12:1 is a lot of compression. You aren't planning to run that on California pump gas I hope.
12:1 is a lot of compression. You aren't planning to run that on California pump gas I hope.
why wouldnt an injected car dislike leaded anymore then a carb car setup for mostly unleaded?
we have a 87 Formula,runs low 9's@150+ and it runs on C16 at the track,pumpgas on the street. been doing so for a few years with various combo's and no problems.
we have a 87 Formula,runs low 9's@150+ and it runs on C16 at the track,pumpgas on the street. been doing so for a few years with various combo's and no problems.


