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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 02:44 PM
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Hm.. what did the car run bone stock though?
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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It ran one 14.9 on the 305 TPI. (no cat, home made CAI, 3.42 gears)
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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We pocket ported a set of 86 305 TPI heads,gasket matched, added 1.94 intake valves with a 3 angle valvejob, backcut the valves, and removed all casting flash throughout the port. We stuck these heads on a stock 90 350 TBI shortblock stuck the 86 TPI equipment back on and put it in an 86 T/A. The car ran consistant low 14s (no cats, homemade cold air, cat-back, 2500 stall, 3.42 rear) at 97 to 99 mph. We later added some ported 193s with basicly the same work, removed swirl vanes. and gained a few hundreds of a sec. (well within correction factor)
That car wasn't hooking very well, was it? That mph is plenty to get into the 13's.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Wow.. that is really good timing for only having that head work done on your stock head! Hooking is gonna be a problem for me as well.. 350 lb's.. one-wheel peel..
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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That car wasn't hooking very well, was it? That mph is plenty to get into the 13's.

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It was running 2.0 and a best 1.9 60 footer, so yeah there was alot of room for improvement.
But what can you expect from GSCs?
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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This has all been very good information!
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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I agree.. this has been AWESOME info!
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Re: What to do with the heads?

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I will call around local junkyards and find out if they have any LO3 or LG4 heads. .
Not LO3 heads! They are the ones (along with late-70's 305's) that gave 305 heads a bad reputation. Contrary to a previous statement, they do have the "swirlport technology" to get in the way, and don't have any performance improvement potential.

Everything said should only be assumed to apply to either your current '85 heads, or '87-up 081 casting 305 heads.

As for the aluminum L98 heads: 58cc chambers are too big for a 305. The factory went from 64cc iron to 58cc aluminum on a 350 to make up for the heat loss (read: power loss) through the aluminum material. On a 305, they should be milled down to 52cc. Similarly, Vortecs should be shaved down to 58cc.
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Wow.. that is really good timing for only having that head work done on your stock head!
Don't forget...they also went from a 305 to a 350 to get those times....

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Re: What to do with the heads?

What is "swirl port" technology? I am assuming that my heads do not have it? According to Justin, (tru2chevy) the Aluminum L98 heads are PERFECT for aftermarket heads for my Z.

"Don't forget...they also went from a 305 to a 350 to get those times...."

Sheeit.. I forgot about that part
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"Don't forget...they also went from a 305 to a 350 to get those times...."
Sheeit.. I forgot about that part
That's okay, so did I. I was thinking "Wow, he did exactly the same thing as me!" It's still fast for a TPI with stock runners, intake, and plenum though.

As for swirl port technology, the L03 got some heads that had a vane cast into the valve pocket which was supposed to induce swirl into the charge in order to get it to spin out from under the valve face and induce turbulence into the combustion chamber on the compression stroke. Think of it as the OEM equivilant of the "Tornado". Whereas it might in theory have helped low-end torque, in fact it reduced air flow volume and velocity, rendering the L03 heads LESS than optimal for a performance standpoint.
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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How much hp and #'s did the L03 put out? DId it in all reality help w/ torque?
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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How much hp and #'s did the L03 put out? DId it in all reality help w/ torque?
Here's a link that might explain the swirl port. As for HP and torque, check www.thirdgen.org for all of the stats. IIRC, it's a 175 HP motor.

http://customclassictrucks.com/techa...0405cct_head/#
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Looking at some LO3s you'll shove sell them for scrap or use them for credit at the machineshop (if they'll take em). The ports are tiny and the breathing capability of them is low. You also have what they call "lightweight" castings in the LO3s. I would pass on them either way.
Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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what is a lightweight casting? Thank for the link ws6transam! That helped me a lot.



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