TPI faster then new Z
08-11-2004, 09:15 AM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
Originally Posted by keythyscamaro
dont be dumb joed the 350 tpi in my camaro that has been bored and port and polished with headers and 373 geats and a higher stall will be able to waste any stock v6 and maybe new z28.
And how do you plan on wiring/ installing this motor? because by the sound of things you, and your cousin dont know sh*t about modifying a vechicle.
Hey, prove me wrong man- Ive heard enough of your pipedreams, time for some action- lets see your 350TPI 4th gen already.
08-11-2004, 05:33 PM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
I don't know how much work you have done to your motor but I don't think a TPI car can keep up with a LS1 car at all.
You may keep up, or even take one out of the hole but that won't last long once you get past 4,000rpm. The LS1 is just warming up, but TPI's already out of breath.
Now, if you wanted to so how even you could get them, then I'd suggest getting a set of heads to flow as well on a TPI car as stock LS1 heads do. Too bad the TPI induction is a big limiter unless you match a nice cam with it.
You may keep up, or even take one out of the hole but that won't last long once you get past 4,000rpm. The LS1 is just warming up, but TPI's already out of breath.
Now, if you wanted to so how even you could get them, then I'd suggest getting a set of heads to flow as well on a TPI car as stock LS1 heads do. Too bad the TPI induction is a big limiter unless you match a nice cam with it.
08-12-2004, 03:46 PM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
You know, drop a HSR or a LT1 intake on that TPI and it'll be ALOT closer to catching the LS1. Granted, the head flow still isn't there, and it would need a tune bad.
But a HSR is excellent for producing drag strip power, and the loss of low-end torque isn't that pronounced, some gears could fix that easily.
But a HSR is excellent for producing drag strip power, and the loss of low-end torque isn't that pronounced, some gears could fix that easily.
08-13-2004, 12:01 PM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
Originally Posted by FruityOne
I don't know how much work you have done to your motor but I don't think a TPI car can keep up with a LS1 car at all.
You may keep up, or even take one out of the hole but that won't last long once you get past 4,000rpm. The LS1 is just warming up, but TPI's already out of breath.
You may keep up, or even take one out of the hole but that won't last long once you get past 4,000rpm. The LS1 is just warming up, but TPI's already out of breath.
08-15-2004, 09:57 AM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Heads, cam, exhaust, torque converter and sticky tire 350 TPI with the STOCK TPI setup have gone well into the 12s. There's a local guy here who has his stock TPI feeding a Dart headed L98 with a .560 lift Lunati hyd. roller through long tubes and a 3500 stalled TH350 running consistent mid 12s on BFG Radial TAs. Same setup with a 150 shot and he was flirting with 10s. That's MORE than enough to b*tch slap and LS1, and then some!
Assuming that head flow is the same, as well as camshaft profiles, the LS1 will walk away from the TPI easy enough. Stock TPI induction doesn't flow enough to make any major horsepower.
08-15-2004, 10:17 AM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
Originally Posted by FruityOne
I was speaking of a L98 that kept the cam. Do everything else and you'll still have some major problems with a LS1. The trap speed just ISN'T there.
Assuming that head flow is the same, as well as camshaft profiles, the LS1 will walk away from the TPI easy enough. Stock TPI induction doesn't flow enough to make any major horsepower.
Assuming that head flow is the same, as well as camshaft profiles, the LS1 will walk away from the TPI easy enough. Stock TPI induction doesn't flow enough to make any major horsepower.
08-15-2004, 10:50 AM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
Well, to start with, the LS1 as you know can make a lot more up top than an L98. doing just intake mods will net some top end, but a t a trade of some bottom end. To keep up with or exceed the LS1, something like a super ram or steath ram intake is needed, but to retain the bottom end and give good midrange, a healthy cam with some moderate duration and a good amount of lift Ex. LPE 219 or ZZ9. some good heads, AFR 195's, TF G2's, and the like along with full exhaust, beef up the A4 with a shift kit and a 2400-3000 stall converter, alum. DS, and then a suspension that can hook, the 3.73's will work with a setup, 4.10's and kiss the 10 bolt goodbye, unless its modded for the power, or a 12 bolt, and you can pull some high-mid 12's and it will all be streetable. Dont forget custom prom tuning, and fuels system upgrades.
08-15-2004, 02:17 PM
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08-15-2004, 05:34 PM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
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08-15-2004, 07:17 PM
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Re: TPI faster then new Z
All things being equal...You need to find the 100 extra HP that the LS1 has under it's hood. Then...You'll be equal or faster. Nitrous is a nice equalizer. An LS1 swap is a better way. An LS1 swap with nitrous is the best route. I should have done that a long time ago. 