Someone tell me this swaybar can be fixed...
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Someone tell me this swaybar can be fixed...
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/sway2b.JPG
The bolt that goes through the sway bar and holds it on broke, but I want to know if that part of the mount that is bent/snapped off (that I drew the colors on) can be welded back on or something. It looks like it's part of the frame. And I'm not entirely sure how swaybars are made, but is there anyway a new bolt could be put in there, or do I need a whole new swaybar? Also, brake fluid is leaking from the drum on the wheel right next to that.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/brake.jpg
What's the deal there? It only leaks when the car is on too, its a steady leak unless i press the brake, then it slows to a drip. I would think that normally it would leak from a hole in the line, how's it come from the drum and more importantly, how's it fixed? Thanks.
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[This message has been edited by Big_Z (edited July 12, 2002).]
The bolt that goes through the sway bar and holds it on broke, but I want to know if that part of the mount that is bent/snapped off (that I drew the colors on) can be welded back on or something. It looks like it's part of the frame. And I'm not entirely sure how swaybars are made, but is there anyway a new bolt could be put in there, or do I need a whole new swaybar? Also, brake fluid is leaking from the drum on the wheel right next to that.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/brake.jpg
What's the deal there? It only leaks when the car is on too, its a steady leak unless i press the brake, then it slows to a drip. I would think that normally it would leak from a hole in the line, how's it come from the drum and more importantly, how's it fixed? Thanks.
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1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula
TBI 305 A4 (boy do I want a manual..)
It ain't too fast, but it makes for a nice first car
[This message has been edited by Big_Z (edited July 12, 2002).]
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The first pic is of you panhard bar not a sway bar, ust to let you know. I feel that it could be welded back on but you better get all the rust cleaned off so it will have a good weld. A new bolt could be installed but have fun getting the old one out of the bar. You are probably going to have to drill it to get it out if it cant be beat out.
As for the leaking brake fluid that definately looks like a leaky wheel cylinder and I would not be driving the car, because of how bad the leak looks in the pic.
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As for the leaking brake fluid that definately looks like a leaky wheel cylinder and I would not be driving the car, because of how bad the leak looks in the pic.
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1991 Acura Integra LS
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LT1 swap in progress.
XE 230/236 cam, 1.6 roller rockers, "R" lifters, Underdrive Pulley, air foil, and SLP headers.
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Holy rust Batman!!!
Anyhoo, the piece that broke bolts to the car's body on the other side, just follow it over to the left...see the 3 bolts? Take them out and find another piece. Don't weld it, it's got too much rust and will likely break on you again. This bar then connects to the panhard rod to keep the rear centered. If you can't find the brace that broke, let me know. I can get one for you. Just pay for it and the shipping to get it to you. It's a cheap piece, don't worry. If you can swing it, get yourself an aftermarket tubular panhard rod also, it'll run you about $80-100 for a non-adjustable one.
As for the leak, it's you wheel cylinder and that stuff is brake fluid. Wheel cylinders run about $15-30 at any parts store.
Good luck!
Ed
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Anyhoo, the piece that broke bolts to the car's body on the other side, just follow it over to the left...see the 3 bolts? Take them out and find another piece. Don't weld it, it's got too much rust and will likely break on you again. This bar then connects to the panhard rod to keep the rear centered. If you can't find the brace that broke, let me know. I can get one for you. Just pay for it and the shipping to get it to you. It's a cheap piece, don't worry. If you can swing it, get yourself an aftermarket tubular panhard rod also, it'll run you about $80-100 for a non-adjustable one.
As for the leak, it's you wheel cylinder and that stuff is brake fluid. Wheel cylinders run about $15-30 at any parts store.
Good luck!
Ed
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From: Merrillville, IN
hey, thanks! About how much would a new one of those braces/shipping run me if I got it from you? And where could I get a new panhard rod, I really cant afford anything fancy. This car needs a lot of work (money I dont have), and right now its just sitting on my driveway until I can fix that brake at the very least. I'm gonna try and fix that brake tomorrow or tuesday, i need my car to go to work to pay for all this! Thanks a lot! knew i could count on you guys 
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hmm. I just went out to look at it again, and I think I know what you're talking about, but its not what actually broke. In this picture (basically the same as one of the others) marked in green is what i beleive is the brace you are talking about, that isnt broken. The hole that the panhard bar's bolt goes into is broken. that is marked in red, the one closest to the camera is fine, the one behind is broken obviously.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/pan.JPG
Then I took a picture under the mount, where the end of hte panhard bar goes into. that brace is marked in green again. the red circle on the right is the general area where that hole you can see up front is for hte panhard bar is in the other picture, although you cant really see. on the left is the broken part. Sorry for hte crappy pics, but i hope you can see what im talking about. That mount has two holes in each part, one up top for that brace, the second for hte panhard bar that is hanging down now. I think that mount with the holes in it for hte panhard bar is part of the frame, i cant see where it would remove.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/pan2.JPG
thank you for looking again
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/pan.JPG
Then I took a picture under the mount, where the end of hte panhard bar goes into. that brace is marked in green again. the red circle on the right is the general area where that hole you can see up front is for hte panhard bar is in the other picture, although you cant really see. on the left is the broken part. Sorry for hte crappy pics, but i hope you can see what im talking about. That mount has two holes in each part, one up top for that brace, the second for hte panhard bar that is hanging down now. I think that mount with the holes in it for hte panhard bar is part of the frame, i cant see where it would remove.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/pan2.JPG
thank you for looking again
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Yeah, I think I got the wrong thing in my head. I'd just get one from another car and put that one on, I wouldn't waste time welding the rusty piece.
As far as an economical panhard rod, Lakewood has one for about $80 or so in Jegs or Summit, but you could get a BMR on Spohn piece for about $100.
E-mail me if you still need that other bar. I also have a couple stock panhard rods laying around if you need a quick replacement.
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Ed
As far as an economical panhard rod, Lakewood has one for about $80 or so in Jegs or Summit, but you could get a BMR on Spohn piece for about $100.
E-mail me if you still need that other bar. I also have a couple stock panhard rods laying around if you need a quick replacement.
ebmiller88@aol.com
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Here is a link to links were u can buy suspention stuff.
http://bitchincamaro.no-ip.com/links.html
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91 RS Camaro 5-speed black w/t-tops 305 TBI now TPI
MODS: SLP cold air intake w/K&N, air foil,Accel 19 LB injectors, March aluminum under drive pullies, Alburn pro posi, Aluminum drive shaft, Random Technology 3'' cat-back, 8.5mm MSD wires, 160 thermo, jet fan swich, Custom chip with 91 vette computer, SSBC slotted rotors, optima battery in the rear, BMR adjustable lower control arms and panhard rod, Kenny Brown strut tower brace, TB bypass, no egr, no air
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I got a better picture of hte panhard rod's mount.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/mount.JPG
The green points to the panhard rod, the blue and the yellow are where the mounts for the bar should be. the red is around where the snapped mount hole is. The purple is the.. well i dont know what it is, it extends down and has those holes that the panhard rod mounts to. That looks like it/the part of it with the holes for the rod are part of the frame, hence why I dont think it can just be replaced. Perhaps I'm wrong though, anyone got any ideas?
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-003F.JPG
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-004F.JPG
The wheel cylinder looks like its cracked.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-005F.JPG
the whole brake
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-006F.JPG
top view of the brake drum. How does that all come apart? I'd imagine that bolt on the back lets the springs loose, but how does the spindle come off? I'd imagine I'd need to get that off in order to get to the wheel cylinder. Thanks for all the help again.
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http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/mount.JPG
The green points to the panhard rod, the blue and the yellow are where the mounts for the bar should be. the red is around where the snapped mount hole is. The purple is the.. well i dont know what it is, it extends down and has those holes that the panhard rod mounts to. That looks like it/the part of it with the holes for the rod are part of the frame, hence why I dont think it can just be replaced. Perhaps I'm wrong though, anyone got any ideas?
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-003F.JPG
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-004F.JPG
The wheel cylinder looks like its cracked.
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-005F.JPG
the whole brake
http://big-z.hypermart.net/My%20car/MVC-006F.JPG
top view of the brake drum. How does that all come apart? I'd imagine that bolt on the back lets the springs loose, but how does the spindle come off? I'd imagine I'd need to get that off in order to get to the wheel cylinder. Thanks for all the help again.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Z:
top view of the brake drum. How does that all come apart? I'd imagine that bolt on the back lets the springs loose, but how does the spindle come off? I'd imagine I'd need to get that off in order to get to the wheel cylinder. Thanks for all the help again.
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top view of the brake drum. How does that all come apart? I'd imagine that bolt on the back lets the springs loose, but how does the spindle come off? I'd imagine I'd need to get that off in order to get to the wheel cylinder. Thanks for all the help again.
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Well, I replaced the wheel cylinder today, it seems to be working mostly normally. the brake light is still on, and the brake pedal still seems light, but it seems to be stopping mostly like it should. The brakes never really worked right in the first place, so...
I'm still worried about the mount for the panhard bar, it looks like unless it can be welded, I'm pretty out of luck. I'm almost certain it cant just be 'swapped out' for another, its part of hte frame and cant be taken out.
[This message has been edited by Big_Z (edited July 18, 2002).]
I'm still worried about the mount for the panhard bar, it looks like unless it can be welded, I'm pretty out of luck. I'm almost certain it cant just be 'swapped out' for another, its part of hte frame and cant be taken out.
[This message has been edited by Big_Z (edited July 18, 2002).]
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