lil305gta

How much estimated hp/ tq am I making with my current sig mods. Can I run with a stock 2000 GT, 5 spd?

87DJP2001

About 188 HP at the flywheel, to many amps,

lil305gta

Do you think it is possible to run with the 2000 GT, should I do a gear swap?

Lungz

You're not making much more than stock quite honestly, most of your mods, except for your ported runners are pretty much bolt on, and that only gets you so far. And 87DJP is right, too many amps, lol, even if you did have a considerable amount of power mods, the weight of stereo equipment does make a difference.

camarokid04

well considering you probably have the peanut cam you were making about 210 stock at the fly, which is around 175-180 at the wheels. i have seen as much as 25 hp and 30 tq with a full exhaust such as yours, assuming it is headers and 3" all the way back. the airfoil is said to be good for 5 at the wheels, the plenum porting, probably around 10-15, and the filter isn't worth much. so my guess is your making around 205hp and 310 tq at the wheels, just a guess b/c i obviously dont know the tune of your car and you cant put exact numbers on mods. a stock 00 gt is running mid 13's with great driver - high 14's with a bad driver... assuming your car is in good running condition i think it would be decided by how good a driver the gt owner is and if its stock. if you have a 2.73 open rear or even a 2.73 posi in your car i would consider if you have the money going to a 3.73, i personally would go with a 3.42 just b/c i drive mine daily and gas mileage would be better and the difference between 3.73's and 3.42's is maybe 2 tenths.... but that depends on how much u drive the car and how worried u are abotu gas mileage.

edit: and like they said above you figure u have.... atleast 200 lbs? depending on the material of ur box in that car... so there is another few tenths of a second in the 1/4, if you know ur gonna race this car take the stereo out before you run him

lordmetalz28

i agree with some of you and disagree with someoff you, and be nice now, but here goes, a stock gt good or bad driver is around 14.6 to 14.8 even the new mach 1 only hits about 14.2 which is pathetic, with your mods maybe do a 3,73 swap over and you wont be to far behind him if not neck and neck. u have torque on your side, our cars still out torque a mustang, i know i almost bought a 2002 gt, remove that stero crap and youll be better off, u dont believe me look up any ford website.

IROC-T

I think camarokid is pretty much in the ball park here,however lordmetalz has some good points also,I think the KEY word here is HOOK-UP,and yes dump that boom box crap if your gonna race.

camarokid04

yeah i probably was giving them a little bit of extra credit but everybody knows there are some guys out there who can just squeeze off some amazing 1/4 times, i have only seen a few of the new GT's run at the track and most were low to mid 14 second cars with what i would call average drivers.

i agree with the hookin up you clearly have some suspension mods but you dont have or i didn't see what most people consider the first suspension mod that should be done, SFC's. granted in a 1/4 mile race SFC's dont help much but they sure as hell help from twisting a frame... just another thought...

lil305gta

Thanks guys. I have the g-west sfc's but I can't find a place to put them on. I am currently stationed in Holland and all the shops work on the euro/import tuner stuff. Does anyone have a clear picture of some installed? The stereo is out for now. Also alot of people say the GTA's are heavy, on my official shipping document with a 1/4 tank of gas,spare tire, and jack she weighed in at 2843! This car also has every power option offered!

97WS6SCharged

Alot of the time you run is going to depend on weather, altitude, and track prep. I've seen newer GT cars run 13.7-13.8 here at 0 feet in good weather. The Machs have run in the low, low 13's and the blown snakes have been known to dip into the 12.7's with a good driver.

camarokid04

here are some pictures... in the first one the blue is the stock sub frame structure, red are spohn sfcs and yellow are alston sfcs i dont know what yours look like so i cant tell you which way yours would need to be installed.



i'm looking for more pictures as you read this i'm having some trouble finding them but here is one for now...

IROC-T

They must have someone that welds at the base ,won't they let you do it there? I think once you have the car up and the subs underneath the car you will find the way that they mount they are not that hard to figure out really.

RedIrocZ-28

On a good day, perfect launch and a dead hook you'd be VERY lucky to run a 14.7 @ 92-93 mph in the 1/4. If a stock 01' GT cant take you, well then fors is pathetic. Honestrly I don't think your car would make it out of the 15's by ver much if at all.

Marc 85Z28

If the GT is a manual trans, and is driven with more than 50% throttle, you don't have a chance. An auto GT with a bad launch/driver could make an interesting race.

Remember, most newer GTs (manual trans) are good for low 14s with your average driver. You're AT LEAST a full second slower, probably more.

GTA's are heavy to begin with. Load them down with a ton of stereo equipment and motivate the car with the weakest of the TPI 305s (peanut cammed auto) and most newer performance cars are out of your league.

If you want ANY chance against that GT you'll need to ditch the excess weight, tune a few more ponies out of your current combo, swap in a little more gear, and get some sticky tires. Then, maybe then, you'll have something for him.

lil305gta - Go weigh that car of yours. Getting any street legal Thirdgen below 3000 is VERY difficult, and almost impossible. A GTA at only 2900lb?

Ray86IROC

Well I don't know about how the weight factor would play into it, but my old 86 IROC with it's modded 305 ran about as dead nuts even as you can get with a 99+ GT with a cat-back as it's only mods supposedly. It has everything you've got except the runners, with the addition of a 204/214 @.050 .420/.442 camshaft and 3.42 gears. It's beat quite a few stock/mild mods 5.0s and older 4.6 Stangs. The cam makes a huge difference in these original peanut cam cars, I don't see you keeping up with the 260 horse GTs (5spd models at least) still saddled with the peanut...

Who knows though, could be wrong. I've heard of some very low 15s basically stock from a few 90-92 205hp 305 TPI auto owners, and you do have some good mods... But then again your GTA has got to be pretty heavy...