3rd Gen / L98 Engine Tech 1982 - 1992 Engine Related

Duel Snorkel setup?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:08 PM
  #1  
StealthElephant's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 672
From: New Jersey
Duel Snorkel setup?

How is it done on a carbed car? I read somewhere that ram charging can give up to 30 more HP at higher speeds....maybe not that much, but a free 15-20 HP is more then enough reason to have a duel snorkel ready when the 350 goes in. Does anyone make a kit? A K&N is probably going on top the carb...where do you put the duct? behind the fogs? I saw a picture of someone setup but i couldnt' see where they lead too....also is there anything to cover up the old TPI baffle area where the old filters used to go, since once that Y cover comes off it doesn't look too pretty (also i took a saw and cut out all those baffles and other flow restricting crap)
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:18 PM
  #2  
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 2,022
From: MD
My engine with the 5.0 HO aircleaner...

http://members.aol.com/schitt17/engine.jpg


You could easily rig it to scoop air by removing the high beams and cutting the headlight bucket, but I won't go that far.

Last edited by Marc 85Z28; Feb 12, 2003 at 05:21 PM.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:33 PM
  #3  
StealthElephant's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 672
From: New Jersey
Yep that's your pic i saw before, where do the snorks grab air from right now...it looks like the hood would close on them....running behind teh fogs light would be half decent but thats more turns and distance to travel....
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:24 PM
  #4  
Sitting Bull's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 550
From: Calgary, Alberta, Republic of Western Canada
The dual snorkle knocks 1/4 second off the times of cars with the single snorkle cleaner.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 07:27 PM
  #5  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
They take air from right under the edge of the hood above the headlights. Since there's positive air pressure caused by the headlight "pocket" when driving at highway speed, it is actually a very good place to take air from. However, the proximity of the hood does restrict the flow a bit.

And to cover the TPI air cleaner hole.....just get the panel from a TBI or carbed car at any given junkyard.
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 08:09 PM
  #6  
StealthElephant's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 672
From: New Jersey
I'm kinda confused, does a company like K&N make a filter with an enclosure and tubing...cause the filter needs a case, then you have 2 holds in the case that the air goes through into the case that encloses the filter right?

that setup above looked real clean...
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 10:52 PM
  #7  
stonedchihuahua's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 197
From: ponoka
my question would be... I though gm only made the tubing to come off the one side on all the camaros??? where did you get the passenger side one?
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:23 AM
  #8  
Ace_437's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 687
From: Las Vegas, NV
Originally posted by stonedchihuahua
my question would be... I though gm only made the tubing to come off the one side on all the camaros??? where did you get the passenger side one?
Read his post again. It's from a High Output 305. You should be able to find one in a junkyard, or you could make your own very cheap.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:31 AM
  #9  
stonedchihuahua's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 197
From: ponoka
Hmm well considering I never see high outputs I wouldn't know.. and don't get smart I don't interpret words too well.. I realize it said high output 5.0 but 5.0 is generally how you referr to a ford thing... also I haven't seen high ouputs other than in the T/As they are out there... just no without sight of me
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:37 AM
  #10  
Ace_437's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 687
From: Las Vegas, NV
Sorry dude. I wasn't "getting smart" with you, just pointing out someting you might have missed. The 5.0 is just a volume measurement, it has nothing to do with Ford, Chevy, Mopar, or any other manufacturer. If I were you I'd just make my own dual snorkel housing. I read an article in Super Chevy magazine a few years ago where they did the exact same thing. Basically all you have to do is find another single snorkel houseing, remove the tubing, and attach it to your current housing. Of course you'll have to do a bit more that that (drill, dremel, that sort of thing) but It should be pretty easy. Oh, and the was about the "High Output" of the 5.0 (305). LT1 all the way baby!
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:40 AM
  #11  
stonedchihuahua's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 197
From: ponoka
Well I don't really care what it is off of or about 305 high output... I'm jsut grumpy today.. don't take anything I say to heart..
I know what 5.0 referrs to... thing is most chev guys tend to say 305 and leave the 5.0 thing to mustang guys.... just used to it being said by the different groups doesn't mean anything really just the way I'm used to..

as for the 305 5.0 thing.. **** IT!!!! I want money to do up my damn 400!!!
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 01:52 AM
  #12  
Ace_437's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 687
From: Las Vegas, NV
Originally posted by stonedchihuahua
Well I don't really care what it is off of or about 305 high output... I'm jsut grumpy today.. don't take anything I say to heart..
I know what 5.0 referrs to... thing is most chev guys tend to say 305 and leave the 5.0 thing to mustang guys.... just used to it being said by the different groups doesn't mean anything really just the way I'm used to..

as for the 305 5.0 thing.. **** IT!!!! I want money to do up my damn 400!!!
I understand you being grumpy, and I didn't take it to heart. I never do. Anyway, if I were you I'd put my money in a tried and true 350 and skip the 400. You'll get more power out of the 350, and it will be hell of alot more reliable and cheaper to maintain. If your trying to do something more "unique" and not follow the crowds, why not look for a 327? There should be alot out there, and you can make crazy HP with those things. I'd kill to have a nice 3rd gen with a bad-a$$ 327.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:02 AM
  #13  
stonedchihuahua's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 197
From: ponoka
tried true and boring...
400 if built the same will get more HP and tourque... than a 350... no replacement for displacement... besides... who the hell wants to look forward to maybe ONE day haveing a twin turbo 350 when you could look forward to having a twin turbo 400...

I dunno I hear too many people knock the 400s... they say that they overheat and a bunch of crap like that.. nobody I have talked to has ever actually seen this but they all say it's true... any dumbass can find a way to build a motor... it takes someone smart enough to figure out a way to build that motor and have it run perfectly...

if I had the cash and this was a completly drag car I might destroke my 400 so that it was a 352... it'd be good for the strip... but not so good for the street
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:52 PM
  #14  
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 2,022
From: MD
stonedchihuahua - I've got another one, but without the ducting. The ducts and tubes are VERY hard to come by, and GM no longer sells them. I bought my aircleaner from TVP (board member) about 4 years ago, and got the ducts and tubes from GM. You can still find the aircleaner on EBay for cheap (2 on auction right now). Rarely do you see a complete setup though, and when you do, they want insane prices. Oh, and like stated above, they are good for at least .25 off your times. I've seen mag tests at .5 seconds even! I felt a BIG difference with mine, back when I had a stock 305. I wouldn't even think of that $hitty single setup that restricts down to 1"x2" on anything over 140HP!

About the 5.0/305 thing. It actually states "5.0 High Output" on the aircleaner. That's why I called it a 5.0 HO aircleaner. BTW - Ford never made a 5.0

www.ramairbox.com makes similar kits.

Last edited by Marc 85Z28; Feb 13, 2003 at 05:59 PM.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:21 PM
  #15  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
BTW - Ford never made a 5.0
The Ford 302 calculates to 4.96 liters...I always liked that



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 PM.