95 neon for 86 t/a... fair trade?
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95 neon for 86 t/a... fair trade?
I'd sell the neon for $1500, so what do you think of this conversation I had with the guy about the car?
For back ground info, I had the car back around 99 or so then sold it to him.
Oh and here's some pics of it: http://www.gdd-online.com/images/86TransAm/
TimberwolfZ28 (9:25:32 PM): so what all is wrong witht he 'bird?
GusDaDog (9:25:42 PM): high milage
GusDaDog (9:25:49 PM): umm....beat up T-Top
GusDaDog (9:26:01 PM): needs new clips on the spoiler
TimberwolfZ28 (9:26:03 PM): any nagging issues though? sagging doors, bad brakes, over heating, no heat or a/c, etc?
GusDaDog (9:26:20 PM): no A/C
GusDaDog (9:26:25 PM): sagging driver door
GusDaDog (9:26:58 PM): occasional diesel
GusDaDog (9:27:46 PM): heat is fine, brakes are ecellent
TimberwolfZ28 (9:27:58 PM): tires/exhaust/suspension?
GusDaDog (9:28:08 PM): no muffler but not loud
GusDaDog (9:28:20 PM): I piped it put the stock local after the cat
GusDaDog (9:28:33 PM): new rear tires, 60% front
TimberwolfZ28 (9:28:39 PM): I forget what year that is... 86?
GusDaDog (9:28:46 PM): could use shocks but not badly
GusDaDog (9:28:50 PM): 86
GusDaDog (9:28:55 PM): 305 auto
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:02 PM): carbed, right?
GusDaDog (9:29:07 PM): 4bbl
GusDaDog (9:29:10 PM): K&N
GusDaDog (9:29:14 PM): 199,000
GusDaDog (9:29:22 PM): no leaks
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:33 PM): t/a or firebird (I think I have early alzheimer's lol)
GusDaDog (9:29:36 PM): doesn't burn any more oil than the day you gave it to me
GusDaDog (9:29:40 PM): TA
GusDaDog (9:29:56 PM): cruise works fine
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:59 PM): how's the interior? seats torn/stained/broke down?
GusDaDog (9:30:09 PM): headline is ****
GusDaDog (9:30:20 PM): otherwise not bad....got matching burgandy seat covers
GusDaDog (9:30:32 PM): driver seat is pretty bad underneith
GusDaDog (9:30:42 PM): cut along the door losing a little foam
GusDaDog (9:31:11 PM): new windshield
GusDaDog (9:31:20 PM): new front brakes
TimberwolfZ28 (9:31:26 PM): rust report?
GusDaDog (9:31:37 PM): not perf
GusDaDog (9:31:43 PM): undersides of doors
GusDaDog (9:31:55 PM): playing card size on lip of trunk
TimberwolfZ28 (9:31:58 PM): surface/bubble, or holes?
GusDaDog (9:32:13 PM): mostly surface, some bubble
GusDaDog (9:32:24 PM): no known holes
TimberwolfZ28 (9:32:28 PM): no cancer though?
GusDaDog (9:32:42 PM): none known
TimberwolfZ28 (9:32:48 PM): dash pad busted up?
GusDaDog (9:32:52 PM): nope
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:04 PM): how's the console?
GusDaDog (9:33:08 PM): rough
GusDaDog (9:33:13 PM): door barely on
GusDaDog (9:33:20 PM): otherwise intact
GusDaDog (9:33:34 PM): not too ugly and still funtional
GusDaDog (9:33:42 PM): not any worse than when you gave it to me again ;-)
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:46 PM): lol
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:54 PM): carpet? floors?
GusDaDog (9:34:05 PM): carpet worn but not really stained
GusDaDog (9:34:08 PM): cloth, not mats
GusDaDog (9:34:39 PM): I'd recomend a headliner and sail panel kit and thats all for the interior..maybe a console
GusDaDog (9:34:48 PM): split fold down rear bench
TimberwolfZ28 (9:34:51 PM): hatch pull down work?
GusDaDog (9:35:13 PM): nope, but I have it in the down position and locked there, you just let it fall shut and it latches
GusDaDog (9:35:25 PM): alarm
GusDaDog (9:35:30 PM): no remote entry anymore
TimberwolfZ28 (9:35:40 PM): think the motor is bad on the pull down? or have you checked the fuses and relays?
GusDaDog (9:36:14 PM): the rails had delrin bushings that disintigrated so I disabled it
GusDaDog (9:36:24 PM): otherwise fine that I know
TimberwolfZ28 (9:36:30 PM): how did you disable it?
GusDaDog (9:37:04 PM): there was holes thru the rails...I just tossed in a screw and some nuts and unhooked the electrical pigtail
TimberwolfZ28 (9:37:17 PM): ah
GusDaDog (9:37:42 PM): although the button to release it still is hooked up
GusDaDog (9:37:48 PM): just not the power pull
TimberwolfZ28 (9:38:35 PM): steering box/tie rod ends etc tight still?
GusDaDog (9:38:41 PM): I think it really just needs the little white plastic pads it rides on
GusDaDog (9:38:47 PM): steering real tight
GusDaDog (9:38:58 PM): trans is like the day it was born smooth
GusDaDog (9:39:15 PM): car doesn't diesel either if I use premium
GusDaDog (9:44:22 PM): max-life oil the last 3 years, every 3000
For back ground info, I had the car back around 99 or so then sold it to him.
Oh and here's some pics of it: http://www.gdd-online.com/images/86TransAm/
TimberwolfZ28 (9:25:32 PM): so what all is wrong witht he 'bird?
GusDaDog (9:25:42 PM): high milage
GusDaDog (9:25:49 PM): umm....beat up T-Top
GusDaDog (9:26:01 PM): needs new clips on the spoiler
TimberwolfZ28 (9:26:03 PM): any nagging issues though? sagging doors, bad brakes, over heating, no heat or a/c, etc?
GusDaDog (9:26:20 PM): no A/C
GusDaDog (9:26:25 PM): sagging driver door
GusDaDog (9:26:58 PM): occasional diesel
GusDaDog (9:27:46 PM): heat is fine, brakes are ecellent
TimberwolfZ28 (9:27:58 PM): tires/exhaust/suspension?
GusDaDog (9:28:08 PM): no muffler but not loud
GusDaDog (9:28:20 PM): I piped it put the stock local after the cat
GusDaDog (9:28:33 PM): new rear tires, 60% front
TimberwolfZ28 (9:28:39 PM): I forget what year that is... 86?
GusDaDog (9:28:46 PM): could use shocks but not badly
GusDaDog (9:28:50 PM): 86
GusDaDog (9:28:55 PM): 305 auto
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:02 PM): carbed, right?
GusDaDog (9:29:07 PM): 4bbl
GusDaDog (9:29:10 PM): K&N
GusDaDog (9:29:14 PM): 199,000
GusDaDog (9:29:22 PM): no leaks
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:33 PM): t/a or firebird (I think I have early alzheimer's lol)
GusDaDog (9:29:36 PM): doesn't burn any more oil than the day you gave it to me
GusDaDog (9:29:40 PM): TA
GusDaDog (9:29:56 PM): cruise works fine
TimberwolfZ28 (9:29:59 PM): how's the interior? seats torn/stained/broke down?
GusDaDog (9:30:09 PM): headline is ****
GusDaDog (9:30:20 PM): otherwise not bad....got matching burgandy seat covers
GusDaDog (9:30:32 PM): driver seat is pretty bad underneith
GusDaDog (9:30:42 PM): cut along the door losing a little foam
GusDaDog (9:31:11 PM): new windshield
GusDaDog (9:31:20 PM): new front brakes
TimberwolfZ28 (9:31:26 PM): rust report?
GusDaDog (9:31:37 PM): not perf
GusDaDog (9:31:43 PM): undersides of doors
GusDaDog (9:31:55 PM): playing card size on lip of trunk
TimberwolfZ28 (9:31:58 PM): surface/bubble, or holes?
GusDaDog (9:32:13 PM): mostly surface, some bubble
GusDaDog (9:32:24 PM): no known holes
TimberwolfZ28 (9:32:28 PM): no cancer though?
GusDaDog (9:32:42 PM): none known
TimberwolfZ28 (9:32:48 PM): dash pad busted up?
GusDaDog (9:32:52 PM): nope
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:04 PM): how's the console?
GusDaDog (9:33:08 PM): rough
GusDaDog (9:33:13 PM): door barely on
GusDaDog (9:33:20 PM): otherwise intact
GusDaDog (9:33:34 PM): not too ugly and still funtional
GusDaDog (9:33:42 PM): not any worse than when you gave it to me again ;-)
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:46 PM): lol
TimberwolfZ28 (9:33:54 PM): carpet? floors?
GusDaDog (9:34:05 PM): carpet worn but not really stained
GusDaDog (9:34:08 PM): cloth, not mats
GusDaDog (9:34:39 PM): I'd recomend a headliner and sail panel kit and thats all for the interior..maybe a console
GusDaDog (9:34:48 PM): split fold down rear bench
TimberwolfZ28 (9:34:51 PM): hatch pull down work?
GusDaDog (9:35:13 PM): nope, but I have it in the down position and locked there, you just let it fall shut and it latches
GusDaDog (9:35:25 PM): alarm
GusDaDog (9:35:30 PM): no remote entry anymore
TimberwolfZ28 (9:35:40 PM): think the motor is bad on the pull down? or have you checked the fuses and relays?
GusDaDog (9:36:14 PM): the rails had delrin bushings that disintigrated so I disabled it
GusDaDog (9:36:24 PM): otherwise fine that I know
TimberwolfZ28 (9:36:30 PM): how did you disable it?
GusDaDog (9:37:04 PM): there was holes thru the rails...I just tossed in a screw and some nuts and unhooked the electrical pigtail
TimberwolfZ28 (9:37:17 PM): ah
GusDaDog (9:37:42 PM): although the button to release it still is hooked up
GusDaDog (9:37:48 PM): just not the power pull
TimberwolfZ28 (9:38:35 PM): steering box/tie rod ends etc tight still?
GusDaDog (9:38:41 PM): I think it really just needs the little white plastic pads it rides on
GusDaDog (9:38:47 PM): steering real tight
GusDaDog (9:38:58 PM): trans is like the day it was born smooth
GusDaDog (9:39:15 PM): car doesn't diesel either if I use premium
GusDaDog (9:44:22 PM): max-life oil the last 3 years, every 3000
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Seems pretty rough, but if I had a '95 Neon, I'd probably do the trrade 
You'll need a bunch of new parts though. And this line:
GusDaDog (9:31:55 PM): playing card size on lip of trunk
would make me even more weary. If he means trunklids...those things aren't cheap! Good luck and let us know what you do.
-Corey
You'll need a bunch of new parts though. And this line:GusDaDog (9:31:55 PM): playing card size on lip of trunk
would make me even more weary. If he means trunklids...those things aren't cheap! Good luck and let us know what you do.
-Corey
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yeah, it's a surfce rust spot on the lid about that size... I wouldn't trash the lid over it though... should be an easy fix.
Re reading his description it does sound like a lot of stuff, but when you start breaking them down they are pretty much all little things...
So I'm not sure. The neone is okay, but has some nagging issues. Leaks oil (probably head gasket and/or cam position sensor gasket), taps when cold (and sometimes when not), has a wild shimmy at 35-45 mph, but it does get 35 mpg and is real clean.
Re reading his description it does sound like a lot of stuff, but when you start breaking them down they are pretty much all little things...
So I'm not sure. The neone is okay, but has some nagging issues. Leaks oil (probably head gasket and/or cam position sensor gasket), taps when cold (and sometimes when not), has a wild shimmy at 35-45 mph, but it does get 35 mpg and is real clean.
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if the neon is your only car i would be weary if you need reliable transportation, as the ta needs alot, and the neon would be cheaper to operate
but the pics arent too bad, the rims are yuck.
parts shouldnt be too hard to find from a wrecker, just make sure you spend your coins on getting the car running reliably first before cosmetics.
but the pics arent too bad, the rims are yuck.
parts shouldnt be too hard to find from a wrecker, just make sure you spend your coins on getting the car running reliably first before cosmetics.
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Actually I have a bunch of cars, the neon is just one of them. the 86 t/a would just be another tinker toy.
No I don't owe anything on the neon either. Like I said it looks decent and runs farily good, but need some work soon (head gasket, etc).
I'm not committed to the trade or anything, it was just a thought that I am debating a little...
No I don't owe anything on the neon either. Like I said it looks decent and runs farily good, but need some work soon (head gasket, etc).
I'm not committed to the trade or anything, it was just a thought that I am debating a little...
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If you're just going to toy around with it for a bit, I'd go for it. As long as you have something else to drive while the T/A is getting fixed up, why not? Definitely dump the wheels though. That thing would look ten times better with the 16x8 crosslaced wheels on there.
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