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420 cid 400 block Limitations

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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Re: 420 cid 400 block Limitations

Originally Posted by Dreadsen

My friend is pushing a little over 700 hp on a 400 block with a Vortech supercharger and he sprays it for close to 900. I'm assuming he must have been shooting dice everytime he ran it.
Is this friend of yours driving a race-only car? If it's a race-only engine, you can fill in a portion of the engine's water jacket with Hardblock, an epoxy compound that stiffens the engine block. The downside is, of course, a reduction in cooling capacity. The upside is that in a drage race environment, there's always plenty of time after the race for the engine to shed all that heat it made in the ten seconds or so of hard driving.

If you are going to relegate the car to a trailer only, you could harden your engine to make it support some additional horsepower.
Old Nov 22, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Re: 420 cid 400 block Limitations

i say that about 650-700 hp is where you start cracking 400's... seen it a few times... i know thats not very many times in the big scheme of things, but that seems to bewhere your throwing the dice...
Old Nov 22, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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Re: 420 cid 400 block Limitations

I have seen the 400 blocks crack in the cylinder walls anywhere from 650-750 hp in a normal block. I have not seen a hardblocked block crack but then any engine that we built that was really trying to make more than 700hp we automatically went for the aftermarket block for the thicker walls and beefier main webbing. If you plan to run your block harder then I would rock it up to the bottom of the freeze plugs. The heat is concentrated in the top inch of the cylinder and we have actually seen COOLER oil temps from separating the water from the oil with this thick layer of hardblock.
Old Nov 23, 2004 | 02:02 AM
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Re: 420 cid 400 block Limitations

Originally Posted by ws6transam
Stephen is right. The machining adds up fast. You'll need a re-bore, line-bore, gun-drill, freeze plug tap, oil gally tap, deck, deck steam hole drill, oil pan rail rod clearancing, camshaft galley rod clearancing, ya da ya da ya da. You'll have $1000 to $1800 in machining into the old engine block.

Better bet is a World Product's Motown block, already machined & ready for your cleaning & assembly. Just order it with the bore you want, and you get beefier block, nice, heavy duty 1/2 inch studs in the 4-bolt mains, and on-the-mark CNC machining throughout.
since when do you have to gun drill the block? steam hole drill? the aftermarket block still need some machining. $1000 in machine work for the whole shortblock maybe.....probably not if an aftermarket crank and rods were used. but thats not the block. now way he'd have a grand into block machine work. im not saying the stock block is better, but i am suggesting if the power level isnt going much about 600rwhp a stock block will work.
Old Nov 25, 2004 | 02:17 AM
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Re: 420 cid 400 block Limitations

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