25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
#1
25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
Ok all you 3rd gen camaro lovers out there. Here is my situation:
Ok, I've found what looks to be a good '92 RS 25th Anniversary edition camaro in an auto salvage yard. I've looked around for rust on the frame and there doesn't seen to much. They are coated with antirust stuff right? The crossmember looks alittle rusted and definitly the rotors and knuckles are rusted out. Same with the rear end. They've only had it for a few months.
One question I had is how can I tell that it is a legit 25th Anniversary camaro? The center console has already been stripped from the car, but the main instrument panels and dash are still in tact. It has a 25th Anniversary emblem on the dash and I just noticed it today and wanted to make sure someone didn't just put it there. What do they have that the regular camaros don't?
The airbag deployed and the front windshield has cracks in it where the passenger would have hit their head on it. The right front fender has a dent in it (looks like a small fender bender that you could get into going at about 5-10mph that was probably not related to the incident). I've looked at the underbody and mainly at the crossmember and steering components. I don't see anything that shows any damage besides alittle rust on the few things I noted earlier. All the way around it is almost dent and scratch free (looks like a recent paint job too ). It still has the air dam underneath with normal wear and tear. It would seem to me that the brakes alone couldn't have caused the airbag to deploy + the damage to the windshield and my best guess is they hit a curb or something low like it and they were braking at the same time. Btw, I couldn't really check underneath the rear of the car because it wasn't jacked up high enough, but from what I could see there was no sign of a rearending.
CARFAX DATA(not all of it)
ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1992 CHEVROLET CAMARO RS (1G1FP23E4NL10****). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.
-This coupe has had at least 3 owners. The first title for this coupe was reported to CARFAX by a Tennessee DMV in 1992.
-It was severely damaged and issued a Junk title or certificate by a Florida DMV.
-It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 8,818 miles per year, which is lower than than the industry average of 15,000. -The last odometer reading, reported on 09/24/2003, was 98,116 miles.
It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check- Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV
No Salvage Title Reported
No Loss Due To Fire Title Reported
Junk Title Reported
No Flood Damage Title Reported
No Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Reported
No Hail Damage Title Reported
No Dismantled Title Reported
No Canadian Total Loss Record Reported
No Salvage Auction Record Reported
No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported
No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported
No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
02/26/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lynn Haven, FL
Title #**********
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
02/28/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
I just found out a whole lot more about the situation. Turns out the towing company impounded the car, then when the owner was a no show they junk it and give it a certificate of destruction and give it to the auto salvage yard for parts then they have to destroy it. They don't keep records (at least that's what they said) on it so I can't find out what actually happened from them. I am also going to see if there might be a way to get the cert. revoked because noone actually looked at it. Maybe through the DMV I can get the guys info and find out more of the story on this car. I am trying to see how the state to state laws differ and see if there might be a way to take it to another state to title it and maybe even get it approved as rebuildable.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!
Ok, I've found what looks to be a good '92 RS 25th Anniversary edition camaro in an auto salvage yard. I've looked around for rust on the frame and there doesn't seen to much. They are coated with antirust stuff right? The crossmember looks alittle rusted and definitly the rotors and knuckles are rusted out. Same with the rear end. They've only had it for a few months.
One question I had is how can I tell that it is a legit 25th Anniversary camaro? The center console has already been stripped from the car, but the main instrument panels and dash are still in tact. It has a 25th Anniversary emblem on the dash and I just noticed it today and wanted to make sure someone didn't just put it there. What do they have that the regular camaros don't?
The airbag deployed and the front windshield has cracks in it where the passenger would have hit their head on it. The right front fender has a dent in it (looks like a small fender bender that you could get into going at about 5-10mph that was probably not related to the incident). I've looked at the underbody and mainly at the crossmember and steering components. I don't see anything that shows any damage besides alittle rust on the few things I noted earlier. All the way around it is almost dent and scratch free (looks like a recent paint job too ). It still has the air dam underneath with normal wear and tear. It would seem to me that the brakes alone couldn't have caused the airbag to deploy + the damage to the windshield and my best guess is they hit a curb or something low like it and they were braking at the same time. Btw, I couldn't really check underneath the rear of the car because it wasn't jacked up high enough, but from what I could see there was no sign of a rearending.
CARFAX DATA(not all of it)
ALERT! Severe problems (major accidents, fire, flood damage, major odometer problems or lemon history) were reported by a Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) for this 1992 CHEVROLET CAMARO RS (1G1FP23E4NL10****). This vehicle does NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee.
-This coupe has had at least 3 owners. The first title for this coupe was reported to CARFAX by a Tennessee DMV in 1992.
-It was severely damaged and issued a Junk title or certificate by a Florida DMV.
-It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 8,818 miles per year, which is lower than than the industry average of 15,000. -The last odometer reading, reported on 09/24/2003, was 98,116 miles.
It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
Report Summary
1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check- Severe Accident or Total Loss Event Reported to DMV
No Salvage Title Reported
No Loss Due To Fire Title Reported
Junk Title Reported
No Flood Damage Title Reported
No Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Reported
No Hail Damage Title Reported
No Dismantled Title Reported
No Canadian Total Loss Record Reported
No Salvage Auction Record Reported
No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported
No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
No Police Accident Record Reported
No Damage Disclosure Record Reported
02/26/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lynn Haven, FL
Title #**********
New owner reported
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
02/28/2004 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
JUNK TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
I just found out a whole lot more about the situation. Turns out the towing company impounded the car, then when the owner was a no show they junk it and give it a certificate of destruction and give it to the auto salvage yard for parts then they have to destroy it. They don't keep records (at least that's what they said) on it so I can't find out what actually happened from them. I am also going to see if there might be a way to get the cert. revoked because noone actually looked at it. Maybe through the DMV I can get the guys info and find out more of the story on this car. I am trying to see how the state to state laws differ and see if there might be a way to take it to another state to title it and maybe even get it approved as rebuildable.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!
Last edited by Metaldrgn; 07-20-2004 at 07:58 PM.
#2
Re: 25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
The RPO codes are listed in the little compartment in the back on the driver's side. Look for the code Z03. That is the code for the 25th anniversary package.
BTW all it is is a cosmetics package (stripes and a 25th anniversary badge on the dash).
BTW all it is is a cosmetics package (stripes and a 25th anniversary badge on the dash).
#3
Re: 25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
Yes it does have the Z03 RPO! I went to the GM dealership and asked him to lookup the VIN and he said it wasn't in his database and looked up the code. He said it was generic for all 25th anniversary camaros. He didn't know much about them though and he might have misread something because he never heard of a heritage edition.
I will be going to the police station tomorrow to see what I can or can't do and see if they know any loopholes. There is yet another office to try and get a hold of tomorrow (I have talked to alot already including DMV and the tax office where they handle titles and noone could give me a for sure answer) to see what they know about this type of situation.
I will be going to the police station tomorrow to see what I can or can't do and see if they know any loopholes. There is yet another office to try and get a hold of tomorrow (I have talked to alot already including DMV and the tax office where they handle titles and noone could give me a for sure answer) to see what they know about this type of situation.
#5
Re: 25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
Originally Posted by Metaldrgn
Yes it does have the Z03 RPO!
Find one thats not junk, You'll be way further ahead.
Good Luck
From thirdgen.org.
`Heritage Edition' package available on all Camaros. There were 8,197 made. Package included first generation Camaro style hood and rear deck stripes, body colored grille, black headlamp pockets, a 25th Anniversary badge on rear spoiler (RS) or hatchback rear edge (Z28), and a 25th Anniversary badge on dash. Initially Heritage package only available as a white car with red stripes; black car with red stripes; or red car with black stripes. Mid-year, additional Heritage Edition colors available: polo green car with gold stripes (this combination also got gold badges and gold accent wheels); and purple haze car with silver stripes.'
HTH
#6
Re: 25th Ann camaro; certificate of destruction...
Ummmm, no wait, let me think.... EEEEEEENNNNNNNNTTTTTTTT. I'm sorry, that's incorrect. Thanks for playing though.
http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/8292...uction_numbers
You cannot just slap on the Z03 parts and call it a "heritage edition" camaro. Plus I am not going to buy a '92 anyway because they are more expensive than I want to pay for a camaro. I bought 2 so far and none were over $1000 and they were IROCs and had no problem that wasn't fixable.
http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/8292...uction_numbers
You cannot just slap on the Z03 parts and call it a "heritage edition" camaro. Plus I am not going to buy a '92 anyway because they are more expensive than I want to pay for a camaro. I bought 2 so far and none were over $1000 and they were IROCs and had no problem that wasn't fixable.
Last edited by Metaldrgn; 08-09-2004 at 11:22 AM.
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