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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

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You have to look at things from a business perspective. GM always reuses parts (ie, engines) across the line. LS1 went from Corvette to fbody. I don't see a supercharged V8 in use at the moment...plus that SC adds costs onto the base car.

So...the LS2 went from vette to GTO, SSR, CTS-V, etc.

So...unless there is a LS3 already available before the Camaro comes out...my money is the LS2 as it will still be in production in great numbers. It all boils down to re-using parts to keep costs down.

Now...the LS7 will be in production for the Z06 and the CTS-V and maybe a few other vehicles. If it's still being used in 2009 I'd say there's a good chance it could make it into the new Camaro if another company is still producing a 500 HP car.

What's interesting to note is that for some reason the GT500 is a low 12's mid teens car. If the Camaro keeps it's weight at around 3500# and the LS2 or equivalent is bumped up to 425-450 HP....that should be enough to keep up with the GT500.

I think the z28 or SS will run high 12's low teens stock and match the GT500 with very little mods.

We shall see....we have another year or two until GM releases all the details...but let the speculation begin.
Forget about the LS7. It's hand built and too expensive to put in an affordable performance car slated for 100,000 plus units. Even if only a select few are scheduled to be the top model. The LS2 and the LS7 most likely won't be around by the time the Camaro comes out. We are most likely going to see a naturally aspirated 6.2 L and a supercharged 6.2 L. But only time will tell.
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

I'll be happy with 400hp, if GM can keep the Camaro's weight around 3450lbs.

I personally don't think I can handle a 500hp car. I'll take a driving lesson first, 'cos I'll probably be spinning out of control a lot...
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

Originally Posted by Mushasi
I'll be happy with 400hp, if GM can keep the Camaro's weight around 3450lbs.

I personally don't think I can handle a 500hp car. I'll take a driving lesson first, 'cos I'll probably be spinning out of control a lot...
you would learn quickly
Old Aug 16, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

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you would learn quickly
How about if you've never owned a car with over 200hp? LOL

None of my previous vehicles were over 200 obviously and that one was my '02 V6 Camaro...

So I'll quickly learn to compensate for 400+hp if that's what the midlevel has?

This was something I really was curious about to be honest.

Only car with over 200 I've ever driven was a V8 '06 Dakota w/230hp and an '06 Nissan Frontier w/265... But they were just test drives.

Heh, I bet I'm the only person on this site who's an HP Virgin. LOL
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

Originally Posted by EllwynX
How about if you've never owned a car with over 200hp? LOL

None of my previous vehicles were over 200 obviously and that one was my '02 V6 Camaro...

So I'll quickly learn to compensate for 400+hp if that's what the midlevel has?

This was something I really was curious about to be honest.

Only car with over 200 I've ever driven was a V8 '06 Dakota w/230hp and an '06 Nissan Frontier w/265... But they were just test drives.

Heh, I bet I'm the only person on this site who's an HP Virgin. LOL
Yea i'm kind of in the same boat. My first car was a V8, my second was a V6, and my third was a 4 cylinder. And each time i got a new car, it was significantly faster than the previous! Today's technology is getting sick performance numbers out of relatively low displacement/horsepower numbers.

An example being a 20 thousand dollar neon thrashing a 30+ thousand dollar dodge charger R/T w/ 340hp!

Nowadays it seems to be more about the timeslip than the dyno chart.
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

Originally Posted by LandonElf
Nowadays it seems to be more about the timeslip than the dyno chart.
Not for me. I want pure torque! Time means nothing ... I'm in no hurry

Torque = Smiles
Old Aug 17, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

hey this is a dumb qestion but why does every one say the ls7 and ls2 wont be out by the time the camaro comes out its only 3 years. but i mean the 5.8 was around a long long time but the 6.0 just came out
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 05:58 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

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hey this is a dumb qestion but why does every one say the ls7 and ls2 wont be out by the time the camaro comes out its only 3 years. but i mean the 5.8 was around a long long time but the 6.0 just came out
GM hasn't made a 5.8 V8, you meant 5.7. But anyways the 6.2 truck engine is out now and we have been hearing that the vette is getting a larger V8 that isn't the 7.0. Combine that with the fact that the LS7 is very expensive to build and we have also seen dyno charts and pics of supercharged LSx V8s from within GM and you can see how we draw the conclusions we have about the next Camaro's engine lineup.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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sorry i meant 5.7 i must have hit 8 instead. i thought i read some where though that the lsX might possibly be dead because of a new engine coming out. and i didn’t mean to say they weren’t going to i just wanted to understand where u guys were coming up with these conclusions i guess i can see them now. but hasn’t the corvette always had the new engine a few years prior to the camaro? if so wouldn’t that mean that if chevy followed in prior tradition that the corvette would have to have a 6.2 next year.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

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sorry i meant 5.7 i must have hit 8 instead. i thought i read some where though that the lsX might possibly be dead because of a new engine coming out. and i didn’t mean to say they weren’t going to i just wanted to understand where u guys were coming up with these conclusions i guess i can see them now. but hasn’t the corvette always had the new engine a few years prior to the camaro? if so wouldn’t that mean that if chevy followed in prior tradition that the corvette would have to have a 6.2 next year.
The C5 got the LS1 for the 97 model year and the 4th gens got it in 98. The 3rd gen Camaro got the 305 TPI 1 year after the Vette got the 350 TPI, it took 3 years for the Camaro to get the 350 TPI.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

It used to be that whatever new engine the Corvette got, the F-body would get the following year. But Corvette, GTO, and CTS-V all got the 6.0 in '05. So I don't think that applies anymore. I believe that whatever the base engine for the Corvette is in '08 is what you will see as the midlevel engine for the Camaro. Whether the car comes out in last quarter of '08 or the first quarter of '09.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

I agree with many of you about the engine being something bigger, more special, than a 350. I think Chevy might offer a 350 in addition to a 383 or 427. I'm going for the biggest. They are always more uncommon and worth more 25 years down the road. This is going to be one bad car and I think in two and a half years Chevy is going to have to offer two engine options over 500 or 550. Maybe even a supercharger because people love those. Have you ever spoke with a Mustang guy with a supercharged car. Thats their favorite thing to say. I'd rather have cubic inches. But I think there is a market and a profit for Chevy in offering one. Plus you can fine tune Horsepower to a specific rating with a sc. I can't wait to get one.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

Originally Posted by 95firehawk
Forget about the LS7. It's hand built and too expensive to put in an affordable performance car slated for 100,000 plus units. Even if only a select few are scheduled to be the top model. The LS2 and the LS7 most likely won't be around by the time the Camaro comes out. We are most likely going to see a naturally aspirated 6.2 L and a supercharged 6.2 L. But only time will tell.
I think you're probably close.
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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Re: So will there be a 500hp engine option?

Originally Posted by 95firehawk
It used to be that whatever new engine the Corvette got, the F-body would get the following year. But Corvette, GTO, and CTS-V all got the 6.0 in '05. So I don't think that applies anymore. I believe that whatever the base engine for the Corvette is in '08 is what you will see as the midlevel engine for the Camaro. Whether the car comes out in last quarter of '08 or the first quarter of '09.
that makes total sense to me.........

now the only question is, what will that engine be?
Old Aug 18, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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intresting thanks for the info firehawk



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