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So what displacement with the base V8 be?

Old Oct 30, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Marketing?

Base model = 5.something
Top shelf model = 6.something

6 > 5 = better upsell potential.
5 < 6 = Doesn't guzzle as much gas.

Keep in mind that 90% of the potential customers don't actually care how fast it is or how much horsepower or MPG it really has.
that's the "90%" that will buy a V6. If someone spends the money on a V8 they want to say "i have XXXhp". It's the same reason some people buy a V8 mustang. After all no one would buy one if they really wanted to go fast .
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Heck I'm not even confident there will even be a "base" V8 now. But there will be two V8 models... eventually.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DvBoard
that's the "90%" that will buy a V6. If someone spends the money on a V8 they want to say "i have XXXhp". It's the same reason some people buy a V8 mustang. After all no one would buy one if they really wanted to go fast .
The stats have been posted here many times before, but with the Mustang, V8s outsell V6s.

Having a V8 will goes along with the image of the car, so I think there will be quite a few weekend cruisers that just want a "V8 Camaro" without being overly concerned with the horsepower. Even the base V8 will be plenty fast. And my gut instinct is that the average buyer puts more weight on displacement than horsepower.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flowmotion
The stats have been posted here many times before, but with the Mustang, V8s outsell V6s.
All of the stats I've seen posted, whether they were for the Camaro or the Mustang, indicated that V6s outsell V8s.

If you have seen otherwise, please post.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flowmotion
The stats have been posted here many times before, but with the Mustang, V8s outsell V6s.
Are u sure about this??
Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flowmotion
The stats have been posted here many times before, but with the Mustang, V8s outsell V6s.
Nope. V6'ers are the bread and butter cars that sell in volume. Look up those sales stats during the 4th gen and SN95 Mustang runs, V6's sold a helluva lot more than V8's. Hence why everyone wants to see a good base model car and not a throw away car, so more Camaros can be sold in volume.

Back on topic, I was kind of hoping for the SS and Z28 to have different motors but a 6.2 in the SS and a blown 6.2 in the Z would work for me. A N/A V8 in the Z28 would be even better (heritage and weight savings) but we shall see.
Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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A N/A V8 in the Z28 would be even better (heritage and weight savings) but we shall see.
Personally, in the Z/28, I'd rather see an LS3 which got the 'LS6 treatment', (as compared to the LS1), than a version of the blown LSA or LS9.
Old Oct 31, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Does anyone think that the coming news of a 5.0 V8 Mustang will impact the base V8 to be chosen?
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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Personally, in the Z/28, I'd rather see an LS3 which got the 'LS6 treatment', (as compared to the LS1), than a version of the blown LSA or LS9.

100% agree. No s/c V8s
Old Nov 1, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Personally, in the Z/28, I'd rather see an LS3 which got the 'LS6 treatment', (as compared to the LS1), than a version of the blown LSA or LS9.
Originally Posted by 305fan
100% agree. No s/c V8s
Sorry, but I disagree.

Personally, I want the Z/28 to be the top performance Camaro and quite frankly I want a supercharger. Having lived with a supercharged car in the past (96 Mustang) I can say they really are fine as daily drivers yet still offer that needed "boost" when you mash the accelerator. My only complaint would be that it wasn't covered by a factory warranty. (Aftermarket Vortech) If GM offered a supercharged Camaro, that would solve my one complaint.
Old Nov 2, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Sorry, but I disagree.

Personally, I want the Z/28 to be the top performance Camaro and quite frankly I want a supercharger. Having lived with a supercharged car in the past (96 Mustang) I can say they really are fine as daily drivers yet still offer that needed "boost" when you mash the accelerator.
you needed then"boost" of power BECUASE it was a Mustang! Besides those 96 4.6L were really slow anyhow

I just think a blown V8 does not fit in with the Camaros image. They have never needed a S/C to go fast! They have such great NA engines to do that!

427, 427!!!
Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 305fan
you needed the "boost" of power BECUASE it was a Mustang! Besides those 96 4.6L were really slow anyhow

I just think a blown V8 does not fit in with the Camaros image. They have never needed a S/C to go fast! They have such great NA engines to do that!

427, 427!!!
I was originally in the same boat, however if you can make as much power (or more) with a smaller displacement and a supercharger AND get better gas mileage, I'd think that most buyers would want that alternative.

What is/isn't the Camaro's image anyhow? GM needs up update the Camaro's image, otherwise we'll be forever associated with mullets, mall-hair and 80's hairband metal. A supercharger would do the trick IMHO.

BTW, the Mustang was my stepson's. You're right. My bone stone LT1/Z28 would eat it for breakfast!
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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I would like to see the 6.2 being mid engine, the LS9 being an up option a year later, and the base V8 being 5.3-5.4. The number 5.0 is associated with mustangs, but would be OK with me. Recammed/tuned LS4 maybe...
With the 3.9L VVT V6 being the base engine. 240, 325, 425, ~540 as the power levels.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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I would like to see the 6.2 being mid engine, the LS9 being an up option a year later, and the base V8 being 5.3-5.4. The number 5.0 is associated with mustangs, but would be OK with me. Recammed/tuned LS4 maybe...
With the 3.9L VVT V6 being the base engine. 240, 325, 425, ~540 as the power levels.
Isn't it looking more like the base V6 will be closer to 300hp with the base V8 making around 400?

V6 family sedans are increasingly getting closer and closer to 300hp. (Avalon&Camry- 268, Altima- 250-260, Maxima- 255, Accord- 244, RL- 290, TL- 258-286) A base V8 Camaro better be pushing more than 325... In 2 years those same family sedans will probably be at the 300 mark if not possibly more.
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
What is/isn't the Camaro's image anyhow? GM needs up update the Camaro's image, otherwise we'll be forever associated with mullets, mall-hair and 80's hairband metal. A supercharger would do the trick IMHO.
I agree. I found this little tidbit on mulletsgalore.com.



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