NEWS: Camaro to receive 500 horsepower?
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Yes they did. Now there are 2 trucks ONLY this model year, that still uses the LS2. And it's probably a "left-overs" precaution type deal.
I'm not convinced that the camaro have less than 400hp in it.
Mybe my hard-headedness...
I'm not convinced that the camaro have less than 400hp in it.
Mybe my hard-headedness...
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I'll take "Things that make you go hmmmm?" for $1000, Alex
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Then these cars become overpriced luxuries. How can the average camaro enthusiast afford to purchase, insure, and generally drive said 500-550 horse camaro? It's a waste and i really can't see the day that I'll be able to lay my hands on one.
I think when you keep upping power numbers you're catering to the performance enthusiast. So the V6 will have to pacify every one else I suppose? I just don't get it. I understand this is all speculation and in reality all you can count on being there is a ~400hp LS motor, being that has become the norm for GM.
Don't get me wrong, I can't leave well enough alone but what's the use? Why have a big pissing contest based on HP numbers? Why not just build a better car?
I think when you keep upping power numbers you're catering to the performance enthusiast. So the V6 will have to pacify every one else I suppose? I just don't get it. I understand this is all speculation and in reality all you can count on being there is a ~400hp LS motor, being that has become the norm for GM.
Don't get me wrong, I can't leave well enough alone but what's the use? Why have a big pissing contest based on HP numbers? Why not just build a better car?
One last thing. Just because you want the mid level V8 power-wise doesn't necessarily mean you have to have a mid level trim package to go with it. I'm sure that most if not all the luxuries available for the limited run car will also be available for the base V8 car.
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I'll take "Things that make you go hmmmm?" for $1000, Alex
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Yeah, DI engines generally have higher compression ratios than Port-fuel-injected. Because the fuel injection tend to cool down the air charge. So, unless the engine is built with forced induction in mind...Blowing it isn't the "best" idea.
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this is the funniest thread EVER! NO, please don't make the camaro fast! 
, looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant.
That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
, looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant. That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
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this is the funniest thread EVER! NO, please don't make the camaro fast! , looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant.
That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
, looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant. That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
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this is the funniest thread EVER! NO, please don't make the camaro fast! , looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant.
That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
, looks like there are some mustang fans that are lurking on the board. look, If your concered about insurance then you better go look for a four door grocery getter. I'm sure that even the V6 model wont be cheap and no matter what GM does for the V8 it wont be pleaseant. That being said GM better give us an option of the 500hp engine and have a base V8 that puts out over 430hp. Now as some of you have said and I concour on is the weight , this car CAN NOT be a pig. Weight is a big concern for me. My 98 would straight up haul a$$ if it weighed 400lbs less, it is just way too heavy. Why is it that a 1969 camaro can weigh 2900 pounds and my 98 weighs 3700 , that just blows my mind. Weight isn't just a performance concern as it is a mpg concern , make the car lighter and get better mileage. Now I've read some of you say well the Z06 type materials would drive the price up. You have to know that the Z06 is also a low production vehicle, while the camaro will not (hopefully) be. So having said that many of these light weight materials will be cheaper when bought in larger quantities and could even be implemented into the whole line ,not just the V8 but V6 lines. I'm not saying the car should weigh 2900lbs either, unfortunately that's not realistic, however 3300 to 3400 isn't.
the 69 camaro can weigh what it does because its basically a shell of a car compared to todays automobiles.
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haha 3300-3400 definately is not realistic. the base C6 weighs 3300lbs, thats a $45,000 car. so it can be affordable, the car is going to be a pig, there's no real way around it. my guess would be what the GTO weighs, or probably within 100lbs. the fbody's are relatively light (by todays standards) but the new platform will have an IRS, making it heavier still. im not sure what the crash test standards were with the fbody, but im sure the new camaro will probably do well too so im sure that will not help with the weight either.
the 69 camaro can weigh what it does because its basically a shell of a car compared to todays automobiles.
the 69 camaro can weigh what it does because its basically a shell of a car compared to todays automobiles.
but the 45k is because of a many number of things besides just it's weight. no doubt much of it is...well, it's a Corvette (the name costs a little, too.) But there's no extensive/expensive weight saving materials on it other than a lack of two rear seats, that I can tell.
I'm betting on a 3600-3700lb Camaro. Have we forgotten that Weight isn't a missed issue with the Engineers. Relax...and read my sig.
btw, Must we call the car a Pig? That's mean.
