I hope they do the separate paddles option. I agree the C6 is set up wrong with the push pull, first time I drove one I hit the limiter pulling ont he right paddle.

But comparing either of these to the pathetic Auro Stick that Dodge put on the SRT line up is apple to oranges IMO. Dodge still can't get there tub of **** to shift right after how many reflashes? I gave up and kicked our SRT-8 to the curb.

 

No hoping necessary -- it's already been announced that this is the case.

 

I just don't think that the paddles can replace the feeling of jamming the car into the next gear with the stick......should be fun, but I wonder for how long is all....

 

I really wish some people would so some reading around here. There were big threads that talked about just this topic.

They will not be like the current paddle set up in the Vette, Malibu/Aura/G6, or any other that use the new three spoke steering wheel. This has a more conventional dedicated +/- paddles located on the back of the steering wheel.

The "Auto-Stick" in the Chryslers as well as some other models is just another way of doing it. IMO, I want to keep both hands on the wheel.

Thats why they offer the TR-6060 6spd manual trans standard.

 

I hadn't read this thread very closely the first time, and so I have some comments.

The L99 is by no means "dumbed down". The lift on the cam is reduced somewhat, but the L99 is more technologically advanced than the LS3. Along with AFM, it also has variable cam phasing. I haven't seen any dyno graphs yet, but cam phasing should broaden the torque curve a bit, and there's nothing wrong with that!

In fact, paddle shifters are becoming more and more common on sporting vehicles. In general, column-mounted paddles are preferred over steering-wheel-mounted buttons, but there are lots of examples out there that work more or less the same as the Camaro.

People "in the know" (that is, magazine reviewers who have driven pretty much every car ever) tend to put the Dodge-style setup last on their list of preferred ways to impart manual control on an automatic transmission.

No. If you're going to have an automatic transmission, I think paddle shifters are the best option. (I'm a manual tranny guy myself.) If you want it to feel like a manual transmission, you should get a manual transmission.

We have already heard from GM that it will not be the same as it is in the C6 Corvette.

 

Thanks for posting the pics of my interior. I have never seen the paddles until tonight and I have have been on different forums since Oct. I'm going with the auto for 2 reasons. I have had my knee operated on and I'm over 52 so I don't think the knees are going to get any better. My wife also doesn't know how to drive a stick that well and I live in Dallas so we won't be getting the standard although I may rent one when I go out of town in the future and they have them as rentals because it would be fun driving for the weekend and knowing when my knee isn't going to be giving me problems.

 

Ill definitely be getting the auto w/ the tapshift cant wait!!

 

IMO after years of driving an Acura with similar tip-tronic style shifting, and a friend's toyota celica gts with the paddles, I have to say the whole thing sems like a bit of a gimmick to me.

I doesn't really offer any big performance advantage over the standard auto, besides being able to chose the shiftpoints, which when you're going WOT the standard auto I'm sure will shift as close to the rev limiter as is safe. Those of you wanting to buy the auto thinking you will have a 'sporty' feel when you drive I really suggest just getting the sitck shift you may end up dissapointed in a few years and wanting to trade it in... IMO the feeling of driving standard just can't be replaced. I honeslty think that if ***** to the wall performance is what's most important to you then you HAVE to get the LS3 with the 6 speed manual.

That being said, if I do decide to buy the 5th gen camaro, I will be buying the auto, but you can be sure I'll be leaving it in automatic mode 100% of the time...

my 2c, I don't mean start anything just giving my personal opinion. If I'm wrong about the automatic in the 5th gen then feel free to correct me since I haven't read much about it...

 

The automatic would be very handy during autocrossing as you could select what gear you would like when decelerating for a turn so you can come out in the powerband. A typical transmission would keep it in a higher gear, then hesitate as it shifted down when you went WOT.

It does have its advantages. If you do get the automatic, I would suggest trying it at least a couple of times during spirited driving. It would be silly not to at least try the feature.

 

You`re right that in that case the 'manual' mode would be better than the auto mode but if someone is really set on taking their 5th gen to the autocross track every few weekends then again I strongly recommend getting the stick since:
1) it makes more power out of the box
2) less drivetrain loss from the manual trans compared to the automatic

Again you could argue 'well it doesn't make THAT much more power' and 'a few mods will easily make up for the difference in whp lost through the auto' but already you're behind and having to make up ground to the 6-spd car. Plus how seriously do you think ppl will take you when you show up to the autocross track in your automatic camaro? Don't you think you would miss banging through the gears going around the course?

And now that I've thought about it, I can think of the *ONLY* scenario where I've used manual mode while driving my econobox. It's when I've gotten lazy and have not fueled up in a while and so now all of a sudden I'm running on fumes, I use manual mode to upshift into the next highest gear as fast as the computer will let me to keep the revs low as possible until I can limp into a gas station

Again I'm not trying to start a war here, just giving my opinion. There will probably be alot of new young memebers logging in or signing up to this website and who have been awaiting the new camaro for a long time, and some of them might not know how to drive stick but instead of learning they may just lean towards getting the auto with tapshift thinking it will 'probably be the same' as getting the top of the line LS3 with 6-speed gearbox. I'm just letting them know that it probably won't be the same at all so that they are not dissapointed when they line up against one and it leaves them behind at the stoplight

 

The auto is just as fast as the manual to 60mph, and I suspect that once we've had a chance to compare, we'll learn that the auto is quicker off the line (a combination of better gearing thanks to the 6L80E and better low-RPM powerband thanks to the L99's variable valve timing).

Since stoplight races typically don't even come close to a quarter mile, I suspect that the automatic transmission owners who are interested in stoplight racing will be pretty happy with their purchase.

 

Not the mention the skill required to be as fast with the stick as the auto. Which 95% of drivers will not have.

 

And that the TapShift will allow you to keep both hands on the steering wheel.


I would get the manual though, because that is what I prefer, not because it is superior to the TapShift

 

i ordered the auto im curious what the tapshift is gonna be like gettin excited i am

 

I wonder how much wear and tear you would put on the auto if you took it auto crossing. Especially downshifting.