I found this 1/4 mile calc tool and it seems pretty close to what other know cars can run.

So if a Camaro is 3860 and I assume you add the driver weight to that, most SS Camaro's will go 4,000#. with that said we should see low 13's stock and I bet low 12's with a cam and exhaust.

http://robrobinette.com/et.htm

 

Unless you're talking about a petite female/horse jockey driver and less than 1/4 tank of gas, it will be well over 2 tons.
I used 4110# for my calculations here:

I know you're looking at that ET and thinking, "No way in hell." Make sure you read after the asterisk. The car will likely run low 13s/high 12s @ 109-110mph on street tires (like you said).

 

it will be possible to run bottom 12s or even high 11s with just bolt-ons. Starting with the 260hp iron head LT1, B-body folks have run as quick as 12.36@107 with just bolt-ons. Of course Pat was the exception to the rule. Only about 10 of us have been able to break into the 12s with bolt-ons. That is starting with cars that were high 14 to mid 15 second cars bone stock.

 

Remember folks 422hp is at the flywheel not rearwheel.

I put in 4150lbs for the weight at the track.

13.15's

I think the car will run a bit better than that but not a bad calculator. I hope 17% driveline loss is on the high side. We'll see what the IRS does for this car.

 

I'm interested in seeing how well the IRS launches... My SS weighed approximately 4100# with me in it at the dragstrip. It might have been making 360fwhp (due to -1100' density altitude) when it ran a 12.97@102.6 a few years back with a 1.70 sixty foot time. The LS3 in the same weather would easily be a nearly 450+hp engine. The L99 around 425hp.

 

I think we might see more drivetrain loss just due to the IRS and all of its joints. Remember the more joints, the more frictional loss. Im puttin my money on the low 13s, just from weight and the IRS Im not thinkin 12s showroom stock. JMHO, Eric L

 

The LS2 GTO cracked 12s bone stock with IRS and skinny rear tires. The SS should be able to match that, possibly beat it.

 

If a c6 with 436Hp and 3250lbs does 12.5 @ 115... I fail to see how the camaro can crack up a high 12s with 600lbs more and 20 less hp... maybe 109 mph is doable.. but... time... i don't think so... Mustangs are doing here locally 107s - 108s with MINOR bolt ons.

The ls3 is an almighty engine, but they are hauling... Hope the z28 fixes this... I'm holding myself to see what the z28 will be. Even if it comes in at 556hp like the caddy, if it carries the same caddy weight... i'm off of it...

I'm not sure, but i think I would have settled for a live axle to save weight.

Anyways... FWIW a 322rwhp camaro ls1 ss 2001 did 13.1 @ 108 with an awful driver (just a borla and lid, no programming) ... I see no point in buying the new camaro.

Now... if it came with a 7L engine.. even though its not an exotic one like the z06... then we would be on target to what the can do and become.

 

FYI - the LS2 C6 with the A6 tranny has gone 12.2 bone stock. I'm sure the LS3 C6 will go even quicker.

Edit: Actually after a bit of research, here are the fastest showroom stock LS3s so far:

11.71 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6
12.16 @ 116.54 - Vinsane112 - 08 A6 2.73
12.18 @ 117.72 - Hardhattg - 08 Z51 M6

So given that, I'd say it's very likely someone will hit 12s in a stock Camaro SS. A good driver at a track like Atco or E-town in good, cool air will get it done.

 

I guess if all you are looking at is a drag car then you are right why buy a new Camaro, but if you are looing for a car that will be a much better car than the 4th gen I think its def. worth it. The 4th gen needed some work on comfort and quality the 5th gen I am sure will address all of this and the speed will be there. So in my opinion the 5th gen should be as fast or faster and be twice the car quality, comfort and maybe even fit a cooler in the trunk wise.

 

I'm thinking the 03/04 Cobra might be a good benchmark for the Camaro. The Cobra was rated 390 at the crank, but was underrated. Many people put down 360 to 370 rwhp bone stock. The Camaro is rated at 422, and will probably not be underrated if it's SAE certified, but will still put down 360 to 370 rwhp stock. The Cobra coupe's curb weight was 3665, whereas the Camaro will be 3860. So right there that's 200 lbs the Camaro gives up to the Cobra, which is worth about .2 and 2 mph in the quarter mile. The Cobra and Camaro both have IRS, and the Cobra I believe had 17 inch wheels while the Camaro will have 20 inch, both at 9 inches wide on the rear. So I'm thinking traction should be similar - it might be tougher for the Camaro with the 20 inch wheels. Another difference would be the weight distribution, which favors the Camaro 52/48 versus 57/43 for the Cobra. (I'm not sure how much weight distribution comes into play in drag racing - more weight on the rear wheels may = better traction?)

The only other factor I can think of is torque management. I don't believe it was much of a factor on the 03 Cobras, but we know that the LS2 GTOs had a VERY tough time because of computers pulling timing due to torque management - even on the 6 speed cars. I haven't seen a problem so far with the LS3 Vettes, so maybe GM has fixed that issue.

Given all that, if you look at what 03 Cobras ran, many were in the 13s stock with average drivers. But there were many in the upper to mid 12s in cool air with good drivers, and the fastest bone stock time for an 03 Cobra was 12.4 @ 114~ mph. Given that, it may not be unrealistic for the SS to run 12.6 - 12.8 @ 110 to 112 stock with a great driver in cool air.

 

Bench racing at it's finest.

 

Sorry man, im stickin with my prediction. 4000 lbs, 360-380 rwhp and an independent rear does not equal easy 12s. Some will probably trip 12s, some LS1 SS camaros did that as well. I agree on it being a lot more car, but this thread wasnt about that was it. When you compare the weight (similar) and rwhp (similar) to the challenger (which runs low 13s) I think its pretty obvious what the average quatermile time will be for tis car (same as the 4th gen ss) low 13s, with A LOT more comfort. Just my .02. Prorac1

 

Bench racing at its finest, I agree, lol. Hell were so good at bench racing we can bench race cars that havent even been built yet, lol.

 

Fun isn't it?

You make good points. A year from now, if the Camaro struggles to see 12s, it wouldn't surprise me. It's possible I'm being a bit optimistic with the 12.6 to 12.8 prediction.

Just one more thing to point out - the Camaro's power and weight will be similar to the Challenger, but the Camaro is a bit better. Also remember the Challenger hasn't been out that long yet, and this fall we will see cooler air and possibly better track times (and the Challenger only comes with an auto right now - a good driver in a 6 speed should be able to get a tenth or two and a couple mph better in a 6 speed than an auto). I have also seen claims on the internet of stock SRT8 300Cs and SRT8 Chargers running mid to high 12s. So maybe once broken in the Challenger will see better ETs. Hopefully GM didn't bog the Camaro down with too much torque management. That would be a bummer.