I'm sure the new Camaro will be a wee bit stiffer than the 4th gen. Look at the advancements they made with the C5 and C6.

My dad's Buick Regal, my wife's GTP, and my brother-in-law's Yukon all ride like air tight drums. No wind noise or creaks.

 

My 99 Trans Am with T-Tops is tight. No wind noise, no rattles, no squeaky brakes. I love my car. And am very impressed with how tight it is.

 

I get some rattles from my catback at very low RPMs (just developed recently; gotta get under there and tighten things down), but otherwise, my car is the same way.

 

Answer included in quote above: "...you're not sure GM has found a solution to it." or put another way - Would you buy a Fiero after owning a Vega?

I have been driving Chevrolets since my 1st car, a 1956 BelAir. My current 1996 Z28/SS runs strong, but it rattles and shimmys over pavement that I've never experienced in a German or Japanese car. My wife has a 1993 Acura Legend with over 150,000 miles on it and it is quiet, smooth as glass, and has zero wind noise or rattles on the worst pavement. My daughter's 1991 BMW 318is has 260,000 miles and it is smooth and quiet and runs like a top.

The reason we don't have faith in GM, is because they have never really pulled it off. They talk a good story, but their quality and build standards are low. Consumer Reports does not reflect kindly to our model, and with good solid evidence supporting their conclusions. I'm not debating about being able to drive a car for 200,000 miles before an engine rebuild - that's doable. But where they fail is keeping the body and the rest of the car from crumbling before your eyes and fingers over time. The technology has been available for a long time, GM has just operated from a cheesy, cheapskate approach to their manufacturing and engineering. From my perspective, they are seem to be content be only better than Ford.

 

Go test-drive a brand new Impala, GTO, and Corvette.

Then, if you still believe that it's true, come back and tell us GM has never really pulled it off.

 

The comparison wasn't made on GM as a whole... it was made about the 5th gen. He never said he won't buy a current GM vehicle because of a 4th generation F-Body that rattled... he specifically said "5th gen", meaning to me that he's afraid the bad traits from a completely different vehicle (other than the name) are going to possibly carry over.

 

Like the NAME makes it rattle. If GM CAN build a quality car (as I believe they can) then why would it be only Camaros that have the poor quality? I'm very pleased with the fit and finish, drive, noise, performance of my Trans Am. (of course I'll always take more horsepower)

 

Thanks for giving me an explanation. I was just worried about GM rebuilding the same product. However if the quality is higher, isn't it going to cost a lot more? I guess if the platform is shared, the can reduce costs that way?

BTW, I like the fight in the people here, it's like me walking into an AMD messageboard and saying 'Intel rules!'. ;-)

 

Build quality isnt gonna add cost. Fact is, GM HAD to step up to the plate in being among the best in quality because companies like Toyota and Honda have been doing it for awhile. GM's new vehicles are pretty rock solid. Compare a Cavalier's build quality to a Cobalt's for instance. Two completely different animals. Pretty much how the 4th gen and 5th gen are gonna be.

If you're wondering about the price, look at how the Mustang is priced and you can bet the Camaro is gonna be similar. And platform sharing will save $$$ on the parts but being this is a flexible platform we're talking about, many cars can be made from this architecture in many different configurations. Wheres Guy when you need him?

And dont worry, theres plenty of fight in here. In fact I think Z284ever and PacerX lead the pack determined to push GM to get the Camaro "dead on *****" accurate

 

Yeah the 4th gen camaro is a very uncomfortable car, I hope the 5th gen is nothing like it,

 

Maybe you guys are right, and people shouldn't be judging the car before it's available to be tried and tested, but these are legitimate concerns raised by the original poster.

The Camaro, like all the "pony cars", was supposed to be a big/powerful engine, tucked in a small, lightweight, respectable handling car. They were simple, not luxurious, but just shear raw speed and power. But over the years as cars advanced and evolved, people wanted more from their cars than just speed. Fast forward to TODAY, and there are plenty of cars that will match or beat the cars of yester-year, but have much more "refinement" to them. The majority of car buyers today will want this type of refinement, even though there are some of us here who could care less. BUT, just because GM finally has a few cars that have come up to current standards, doesn't mean their reputation is "all better", and it's not un-called-for to be concerned about possible problems with the upcoming 5th-gen. Time will tell, but hopefully they've "seen the light" and figured things out.

 

That's quite the blanket statement. Care to explain?

I find mine to be quite comfortable.

 

I agree. I found my '02 very comfortable while I had it.

I can only assume the previous poster didn't like the low laid back seating position of the 4th Gens. Which I personally liked.

 

You guys all have a valid point. Yes, it's a new platform, so the rattles shouldn't carry over from the old, but it doesn't mean the new platform won't have rattles of its own after a few years. Yes, some cars last forever, but think about the punishment we put our cars through. You don't usually floor a Toyota or Honda every chance you can find (unless you're a ricer). I'll admit it, I beat the crap out of my Camaro. What's the point of a fun car, if you're not going to have fun with it. These cars were meant to go fast and be cheap. Sure some squeaks and rattles are expected, just turn up the radio and push on the gas.

 

Justin, I disagree. I have beaten on my Z28 less than any previous car that I've had, because there is actually some satisfying performance to be had below the limit.

In my past cars, I had to () beat the living crap out of them just to have some fun. I don't think I ever didn't floor it in my '93 Civic.