Why does this car make me so mad?
#18
#22
Its really simple:
-Make your points about what you like and don't like without acting like a 3rd grader about it
-If you're interested in the car, go see the production model at the auto show or dealership
-If you like it and can afford it buy it. If not, buy something else! Its a free market, you're not confined to having to buy this car!
And I agree with others, this horse has rotted into the ground a long time ago...
#23
Some people, rightfully so, take it personally when they express a valid concern, out of care, and are told they must not want the car.
Of course I'm also aware that valid or not, most of those ships have already sailed, and either side going on about it at this point is academic. Which is why on the interior, which is the first thing that have had a real and lasting problem with it, I said I don't like it, I explained why in great detail, and then I left it alone.
Of course I'm also aware that valid or not, most of those ships have already sailed, and either side going on about it at this point is academic. Which is why on the interior, which is the first thing that have had a real and lasting problem with it, I said I don't like it, I explained why in great detail, and then I left it alone.
Last edited by ChrisL; 01-28-2008 at 09:47 PM.
#24
I'm just concerned as to what the price will be.. That's it..
The leaked interior pics just hammered it for me.. I LOVE the door panels!!!! I don't know why, I just do! The rest of the interior is SO much better than the concept. I think the Design team did a great job at cleaning it up.
Keep up the good work Scott/GM! Ive been an F-Body FANATIC for a long time, and I doubt my passion will die. I'm holding off on the Corvette for a New Camaro. -Paying my bills off this year to make room..
#25
+1 Bayer........I heard your last couple of call-ins to the podcast too. I can't find anything that I don't like about the car. I too am looking forward to hearing the pricing information. The interior is looking better and better to me. The gauges are just like what I see in my 68. And I haven't ran off the road once while looking over to check oil pressure, volts, fuel and temp. I'm cutting debt every payday and preparing my garage for it's new arrival like a proud parent does a new child. This is the gonna be the best year in a long time for Camaro fans. I just wish everyone would take a breath and be happy with that. I know it's getting old to me, so it's gotta be getting old to Scott. I see his posts like most of you on at least 4 other boards.......Great work Scott and the rest of the Camaro team that reads this posts and posts their own comments.
Patiently and eagerly waiting for September in Indy.
Patiently and eagerly waiting for September in Indy.
#26
I too have very few problems with the inside. You know, often I wonder if - despite the Mustang, and the Challenger being out first - this car will be the 'spark' that the performance car segment needs to really kick off...it's easily the most broadly appealing car - just thinking aloud I guess.......
Last edited by ChrisL; 01-28-2008 at 09:47 PM.
#27
+1 Bayer........I heard your last couple of call-ins to the podcast too. I can't find anything that I don't like about the car. I too am looking forward to hearing the pricing information. The interior is looking better and better to me. The gauges are just like what I see in my 68. And I haven't ran off the road once while looking over to check oil pressure, volts, fuel and temp. I'm cutting debt every payday and preparing my garage for it's new arrival like a proud parent does a new child. This is the gonna be the best year in a long time for Camaro fans. I just wish everyone would take a breath and be happy with that. I know it's getting old to me, so it's gotta be getting old to Scott. I see his posts like most of you on at least 4 other boards.......Great work Scott and the rest of the Camaro team that reads this posts and posts their own comments.
Patiently and eagerly waiting for September in Indy.
Patiently and eagerly waiting for September in Indy.
#28
Instead of disagreeing by expressing the reasons for liking the interior, all I have seen are the "if you don't like it then don't buy it" responses. I'm sure everyone is quite capable of making that decision for themselves. It seems hypocritical to flame on someone just because they have a remotely negative opinion about the new Camaro. So what? Are they not allowed to post their opinions anymore? Are they not allowed a meaningful response?
As for beating a dead horse we must not forget that there are THOUSANDS of members who are a part of this website and a great majority of them do not frequent here on a daily basis. And with the stream of new information coming in slowing down to a trickle there are things that are going to be rehashed several times over.
With that being said I really dislike the interior. It's not for the fit and finish or the quality of the materials but the general design of the interior itself. Just like many people on this board I was hoping that their would be more changes made to the interior after the somewhat cold reception it recieved when the concept first came out. To me the interior of the car is much more important than the exterior. This is where I will spend almost all of my time with the car. And since it has not changed I have drastically changed my plans for this car. I really don't think that I could own this car as a daily driver or weekend cruiser. Will this keep me from buying a Camaro though? Probably not. More than likely if I am still in a position to buy a Camaro I will wait and purchase a no option top model and turn it into a purpose built track car. Essentially I will do what all of us do, and that is to modify it to my liking.
As for beating a dead horse we must not forget that there are THOUSANDS of members who are a part of this website and a great majority of them do not frequent here on a daily basis. And with the stream of new information coming in slowing down to a trickle there are things that are going to be rehashed several times over.
With that being said I really dislike the interior. It's not for the fit and finish or the quality of the materials but the general design of the interior itself. Just like many people on this board I was hoping that their would be more changes made to the interior after the somewhat cold reception it recieved when the concept first came out. To me the interior of the car is much more important than the exterior. This is where I will spend almost all of my time with the car. And since it has not changed I have drastically changed my plans for this car. I really don't think that I could own this car as a daily driver or weekend cruiser. Will this keep me from buying a Camaro though? Probably not. More than likely if I am still in a position to buy a Camaro I will wait and purchase a no option top model and turn it into a purpose built track car. Essentially I will do what all of us do, and that is to modify it to my liking.
#29
I can certainly respect that people are sharing opinions in that perhaps they can motivate change. While a lot of things are locked in I'm sure, I can't blame anyone for holding out hope that they can still motivate change. And for those who don't like the theme and/or details of the interior, I can't blame them for reiterating their opinions.
I like the overall theme, but I certainly do not like the font on the speedo and tach (and that seems an easy change, so here I am hoping they do so!). Like others have said, the heating and cooling controls look a little too much like a play station controller. Seems changeable at this point in time. And I hope that they are planning for nav, but haven't seen anything to indicate this.
I also tend to think that the way the center stack does bulge out, it really changes the appearance from the concept. The concept interior looked sleek cause of the smooth surface from left to right. To me, this is the single thing that spoils the lines of the dash the most
I like the overall theme, but I certainly do not like the font on the speedo and tach (and that seems an easy change, so here I am hoping they do so!). Like others have said, the heating and cooling controls look a little too much like a play station controller. Seems changeable at this point in time. And I hope that they are planning for nav, but haven't seen anything to indicate this.
I also tend to think that the way the center stack does bulge out, it really changes the appearance from the concept. The concept interior looked sleek cause of the smooth surface from left to right. To me, this is the single thing that spoils the lines of the dash the most