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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I don't know what will be in it, but I would personally rather see something that is likely to make it into the production car over a LS7 or something. Since I'm not going to ever drive this concept, nor see any performance tests I don't really care if it has a 505hp LS7 in it or not. I'd like to get some hint of what the real Camaro will have under the hood, so I'm thinking a production LS2 would be just fine by me...

They're stuffing the LS2 in everything it seems and we're getting pretty jaded IMO, but a 400hp factory warranteed motor in a affordable ponycar is pretty exciting to me, I don't need some whizbang 500-600+ hp beast of a motor that has 0 chance at seeing production in the Camaro to wow me...

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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Does anyone think we might see the LS3, or whatever engine code the 6.2 liter all aluminum is supposed to bear?
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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440HP L92 6.2L is my guess.

... that or a tricked out LS2
Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
Open Discussion

If we get a fully operational concept, what would be under the hood? What would you like to see under the hood, something radical or something production based.

I am thinking 6.0L LS2 with more than current production horsepower, maybe 450 - 475 hp.
Naw. It's gonna be a Pratt & Whitney PW6000.

Since it's all speculation anyways.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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A slightly de-tuned LS7 - maybe not de-"tuned" (I'd still like to see ~500 - 505 HP) but instead of the trick dry-sump oiling system, use a conventional oil pan and simplify the motor. It doesn't have to be hand-built either, like the Z06's. But I would like to see the LS7 in the new Camaro . Don't tell me it's too expensive or not feasible either - . It's just a block, heads, and some rotating internals ... I doubt the cost of each part is any more for an LS7 than an LS2, except maybe for the titanium rods.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Capn Pete
A slightly de-tuned LS7 - maybe not de-"tuned" (I'd still like to see ~500 - 505 HP) but instead of the trick dry-sump oiling system, use a conventional oil pan and simplify the motor. It doesn't have to be hand-built either, like the Z06's. But I would like to see the LS7 in the new Camaro . Don't tell me it's too expensive or not feasible either - . It's just a block, heads, and some rotating internals ... I doubt the cost of each part is any more for an LS7 than an LS2, except maybe for the titanium rods.

Pull out the dry sump oiling system, and I have to wonder if GM would still run it up to 7000 rpm. Maybe on the concept (doubtful, since concepts are seldom an exercise in fiscal restraint), but I don't know if we would ever see a LS7 production variant with a conventional oil pan running up to 7 grand on a warranty. Especially in a car designed to take sharp corners.
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Pull out the dry sump oiling system, and I have to wonder if GM would still run it up to 7000 rpm. Maybe on the concept (doubtful, since concepts are seldom an exercise in fiscal restraint), but I don't know if we would ever see a LS7 production variant with a conventional oil pan running up to 7 grand on a warranty. Especially in a car designed to take sharp corners.
I don't think the Camaro's intent is to be a full fledged "race car" like the 'Vette, which pulls near or above ~1.0 lateral g's! In a straight line, the oil should stay within reach of the oil pick-up tube!!
Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Capn Pete
I don't think the Camaro's intent is to be a full fledged "race car" like the 'Vette, which pulls near or above ~1.0 lateral g's! In a straight line, the oil should stay within reach of the oil pick-up tube!!
My concern wasn't with lateral G's alone. My concern was the 7 liter motor having trouble scavenging a normal oil sump at very high rpm while being subject any G force. Even in a straight line, I would think GM would keep the dry sump on there to make sure everything gets oil at high RPM. Alot of guys run there LS engines above 7000 RPM on a wet sump style pan, but they don't have to sell the car with a warranty. Most guys switch over to a dry sump system on LS engines as engine speeds near 8000 RPM anyway, just to make sure everything is running nice an lubed (although production LS7s aren't going to get anywhere near that speed unless someone botches a shift).

My point is, if the dry sump system goes, I think RPM's are coming down on a production motor.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 06:13 AM
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You! Hush and go sit in the corner. We DON'T need you giving GM any ideas. BAD enthusiest!






Old Nov 30, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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Ls7, what kind of drugs are you guys on?

Being very realistic, ls2 w/390-400hp. Anything over that will send the vette guys into panic mode.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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i dont think the ls7 is going in the camaro, as bad a$$ as that would be, it won't happen.

i think ls2 with an optional turbo/supercharger for the top-end model (ss or z28, whatever it will be)
that way the camaro will blow the doors off the new cobras.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by danhr
i think ls2 with an optional turbo for the top-end model (ss or z28, whatever it will be)
that way the camaro will blow the doors off the new cobras.
Now that would be a car to charge near $40k for and would sell. That would steal a lot of Cobra sales.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Hamster wheel.

That's my guess. Minus the hamster.
Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Its safe to say that what's under the hood of the concept will not be the production motor. So IMO its really irrelevant as long as its a V8.

It does, however, need to have a big impressive HP number. I'll guess a hopped up LS2.



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