Originally Posted by JakeRobb

I missed that thread. Thanks for the info.

Any idea where the "VE is Zeta" thing started?

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me

Well then Charlie, why don't you clear up what of mine is speculation and what is proven fact?

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Well, I'm just going on what we know as fact regarding this thread. Right now, the only facts we have are that the VE Commodore is our first look at Zeta and the 2009 Camaro will be Zeta based. The rest is just speculative scullduggery.

But here goes:

1. Yes.
2. Probably.
3. Probably not.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. Pure speculation.
7. Yes. But these won't be plug and play.
8. Yes.
9. Sure, but we don't know that for a fact.
10. Lots of speculation here. Alot can change. The DTS was dropped from Zeta recently. Two years ago they were working on a GTO, a sister "Chevy Coupe" and Pontiac G8. What will happen two years from today is anyone's guess. But what's in the plan now for Zeta 2 is Camaro, Impala and Lucerne replacement. Only the Camaro has been officially announced.
11. Maybe. Maybe not.

Originally Posted by Decromin

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2571CC00202604

So, does based mean the same, just shorter?

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me

A platform or architecture is a set of building components that can be put together in a number of ways to produce different size, performance, and utility vehicles.

What do we know about Zeta?

1. Holden is engineering it now.
2. It will utilize GMNA build methods not Holden developed ones.
3. It will have a body structure closer to Sigma than any other unibody.
4. Its suspension will be closely related to Holden's VE.
5. It will have different wheel bases offered, LWB, SWB, and maybe a super SWB for Camaro.
6. It will have different modules that can be 'plugged' into it: SLA suspension for Caddy DTS replacement and double pivot strut front suspension for volume models.
7. It will have different dash to front axle ratios engineered into it. So Impala may not have the same proportions as Camaro or another model.
8. It will be built on a flexible production line that all models can be assembled together even though they look and feel different.
9. Oshawa seems like the most likely place for production at the current moment.
10. It will be sold as at least the following: 08-09 Chevy Camaro, 08-09 Chevy Impala. There may be others to follow like: 10-12 Buick sedan, 10-12 Pontiac sedan, 10-12 Holden V-car, ?? Opel large luxury car.
11. It will replace the VE chassis cars within 5-6 years.

Edit: The VE cars are not the same chassis as the US Zeta. The US Zeta will replace the VE cars, see point #11.

Originally Posted by Z284ever

Well, I'm just going on what we know as fact regarding this thread. Right now, the only facts we have are that the VE Commodore is our first look at Zeta and the 2009 Camaro will be Zeta based. The rest is just speculative scullduggery.

But here goes, I'll do my best on your list (with some speculation on my part ):

1. Yes.
2. Probably.
3. Probably not.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. Pure speculation.
7. Yes. But these won't be plug and play.
8. Yes.
9. Sure, but we don't know that for a fact.
10. Lots of speculation here. Alot can change. The DTS was dropped from Zeta recently. Two years ago they were working on a GTO, a sister "Chevy Coupe" and Pontiac G8. What will happen two years from today is anyone's guess. But what's in the plan now for Zeta 2 is Camaro, Impala and Lucerne replacement. Only the Camaro has been officially announced.
11. Maybe. Maybe not.