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Old 03-24-2006, 03:36 PM
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Re: What do we know about the 5th gen so far?

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And who said the V8 will be out of reach? Ford sells plenty of GT's for around 30 grand.....("around" above and below 30)
If you can't get a V8 Camaro for around $25K then we're wasting our time with this whole car IMO. Sure A lot of GT's sell for $30K optioned out, but they don't START at 30.

And I said MID-LEVEL V8, as some where between the V6s and the Hi-po V8s, not "MIDDLE V8", there is a difference.
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Stars....I am a little excited at what you said about my previous post concerning the Gen3 power plant.

I also have a question wouldn't the LS2-LS7 be considered a Gen-4 or am I totally wrong.

Also was very excited at your response twords the COPO question.

Basicly what I am wanting to know is if there is any chance of getting a 427 in a Camaro?
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If you can't get a V8 Camaro for around $25K then we're wasting our time with this whole car IMO. Sure A lot of GT's sell for $30K optioned out, but they don't START at 30.

And I said MID-LEVEL V8, as some where between the V6s and the Hi-po V8s, not "MIDDLE V8", there is a difference.
Well your middle V8 is happening...but I know the Camaro will be priced right with the Mustang....and yes you can get an absolutely zero optioned base GT for $25,835 before destination charge....I'm just trying to be realistic...the average V8 pony car is going to go for right about 30k.... this isn’t 1997 buddy sorry...

Lets do some math:

Base GT 26k right now

Camaro V8 26,500k
+leather+stereo+auto+whatever else = your at 29 to 30k pretty fast....
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Stars....I am a little excited at what you said about my previous post concerning the Gen3 power plant.

I also have a question wouldn't the LS2-LS7 be considered a Gen-4 or am I totally wrong.
Yeah GM refers to them as the 4th gen small block...

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Also was very excited at your response twords the COPO question.
Take that with a grain of salt....I heard something but it wasn’t 100% certain... but IMO there will most defiantly be a tuner Camaro available...

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Basicly what I am wanting to know is if there is any chance of getting a 427 in a Camaro?
hmmmmm...... the top motor will make you happy.....promise
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...the news just keeps getting better and better...
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Well your middle V8 is happening...but I know the Camaro will be priced right with the Mustang....and yes you can get an absolutely zero optioned base GT for $25,835 before destination charge....I'm just trying to be realistic...the average V8 pony car is going to go for right about 30k.... this isn’t 1997 buddy sorry...

Lets do some math:

Base GT 26k right now

Camaro V8 26,500k
+leather+stereo+auto+whatever else = your at 29 to 30k pretty fast....
That's all I'm asking....buddy.....
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Thats apples to oranges.....

Show me how many GTs go for less than 27 now

I expext our V8 model will be slightly more than Fords....but will out perform the heck out of it....
If its apples to oranges, then why is GTO GMs current entry to the Muscle car market. Why did Pontiac have banners made that said

"Hey Mustang, wanna race?"

Why does Pontiac put money into car adds that state, faster than competitors including Mustang?

the base price for a V8 Deluxe is $25,860 You dont think Ford dealers arent going to knock off that Dealer mark up crap the minute Camaro and Challenger hit the streets? Ford fans cant wait for competition so Ford will drop their prices and improve their car.

GTO is not a pony car but it was GMs only entry to taunt the Mustang...

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If its apples to oranges, then why is GTO GMs current entry to the Muscle car market. Why did Pontiac have banners made that said

"Hey Mustang, wanna race?"

Why does Pontiac put money into car adds that state, faster than competitors including Mustang?

the base price for a V8 Deluxe is $25,860 You dont think Ford dealers arent going to knock off that Dealer mark up crap the minute Camaro and Challenger hit the streets? Ford fans cant wait for competition so Ford will drop their prices and improve their car.

GTO is not a pony car but it was GMs only entry to taunt the Mustang...

So whats your point?
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So whats your point?

Well you said GTs sell for around 30 then you said they dont sell for less than 27??? Point is MSRP GT Deluxe starts mid 25 where I would think Camaro would be. Dealer markup and convertables dont count.
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Well you said GTs sell for around 30 then you said they dont sell for less than 27??? Point is MSRP GT Deluxe starts mid 25 where I would think Camaro would be. Dealer markup and convertables dont count.
I'm talking average price....and you must except the Camaro will cost slightly more than mustang....

Still what’s your point? A V8 Sport coupe will be sold for about 30k
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I'm talking average price....and you must except the Camaro will cost slightly more than mustang....

Still what’s your point? A V8 Sport coupe will be sold for about 30k
Can a V8 Camaro be had or $25k the way it can in Mustang or not?
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It does make sense to expect a 30k-ish v8 car. Some of us are still expecting the pricing to be that of a new lt1 Camaro, and that is just plain unrealistic.
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Can a V8 Camaro be had or $25k the way it can in Mustang or not?
Nobody knows the price yet...nobody! Not even Lutz himself. so to demand an answer kind of shows all of our ignorance as to the way a business works. You have to wait for GM to sit down and hand out contracts. And as time goes on, materials and labor cost more (obviously). So if you hear an outright number, its not being based on any evidence worth anything. No one knows yet. And once GM does do all this work, and they set a price goal of selling a car for xx amount, we still have to wait for the info to get to us. And even then, its gonna be a range. probably give or take two or three thousand.
Heck, thats even if any of us will be able to find one for sale. With the reactions around the country these things are gonna sell quick(hopefully without large dealer markups).
Also, why do you want a v8, is it the power, or because you want to say you have a v8?

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Can a V8 Camaro be had or $25k the way it can in Mustang or not?

Who's to say that you'll be able to get a V8 Mustang for that by the time Camaro comes out.
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Who's to say that you'll be able to get a V8 Mustang for that by the time Camaro comes out.
thats entirely true. I was assuming the prices were given as if the car were out today. My point was if Mustang V8 GT Deluxe started at 25k and Camaro V8 at 30 thats a tough pill to swallow. I do expect it to be a little more than Mustang for better quality though. IRS 400HP and that styling is something that would be worth it.

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