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Old 03-24-2006, 11:33 AM
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The exhaust note from my N10, dual cat IROC-Z and the note from my SVT V6 are both equally pleasing to me. It's like listening to different music.
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You can never get a cross plane V8 sound out of a V6... but you can get a 'different' good sound if the exhaust tuning is done right.
Yeah that what I meant, it’s not the great throaty sound of a V8, but its not the horrible raspy sound our 3.8Ls sound like with freer flowing exhaust...

Like I said I honestly thought the G35 sounded good.....

But @ 298 hp the G35 may have a hard time keeping up....

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18's on the base sounds interesting, and yet seems kinda of wrong at the same time. How much are those tires going to cost?
Yeah I agree.....They will look great until its time to roll down to discount tire a year after buying the car and you have to shell out $500 plus for tires....hopefully with an increase in larger tires sales (since many new cars are coming out with 18+ size wheels) will lower the price over the next few years.

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A high output V6 would be interesting, and would fit in with some of the other hypothetical threads that have been floating around. I would have to see the price point and the performance compared to the V8's before I pass judgement.
Well what if it ran roughly a high 13? Somewhere between an LT1 and LS1?

I love the idea..... I think it’s a much more modern (today) type option...

Yeah the mid level V8 sounded good in the 80's but I think a hi-po V6 is much more today’s standards....

Why buy a G35 for over 30 grand when you can basically the same car for 10 grand less?

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I still don't think you'll ever see an LS7 (even with wet sump) in a Camaro because I don't think that motor will be around when the Camaro starts production.
I agree the Z28 will have a much meaner motor....
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Uh.. people buy ordinary cars and throw "bangin'" wheels on them all the time. If they can buy them bangin' from the factory, why wouldn't they?
I agree that alot of people buy "bangin" wheels for their base cars but thats not what the "base" car is about. A base car is supposed to be an affordable in all aspects. That includes maintainence. 19's, 20's, or a combination of the two gets pretty expensive when it comes to replacing tires. Alot of people also put ground effects kits, superchargers, intake, exhaust, etc. on their base cars too. But if you start adding these to the car just how "base" would it be?

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I also agree with the sound of some v-6's. However I don't see room for a H.O. V-6 and a mid-level V-8. I think one or the other will be more likely. Just out of curiosity what V-6 engines are rumored to be available say around 2009? You are alot more "in the know" than I am.
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I also agree with the sound of some v-6's. However I don't see room for a H.O. V-6 and a mid-level V-8. I think one or the other will be more likely. Just out of curiosity what V-6 engines are rumored to be available say around 2009? You are alot more "in the know" than I am.
Depends what you call a midlevel V8..... like I said someone who posted above is real close....

I dont know what the engines names are.....Ive just heard whispers of them....

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gotcha, thanks.
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If the mid-level car gets a hi-po V6 I will be very disappointed, as Camaro should mean V8 to people that really know the car. Likewise, GM should make it possible so that the most V8's will be on the street as possible. If the V8 model is out of reach for most buyers, that will be uber-sad.

I'm preparing to be disappointed...
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If the mid-level car gets a hi-po V6 I will be very disappointed, as Camaro should mean V8 to people that really know the car. Likewise, GM should make it possible so that the most V8's will be on the street as possible. If the V8 model is out of reach for most buyers, that will be uber-sad.

I'm preparing to be disappointed...
Mustang sells more V6's than V8's don't they?

shouldn't we be going for volume this time around? Bigger volume = more potential sales.

Some people want the looks, etc. and don't really need the performance.
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Cool. Lighter, brighter and longer lasting. Win, win, win.
LED was a pure guess mind you, but Ive heard they are really bright. If you look at the concept in close ups the head lights arent solid. At least to me they look broken up into several dots which makes me guess LED. Im assuming they are cheaper than projection HID as well.
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If the mid-level car gets a hi-po V6 I will be very disappointed, as Camaro should mean V8 to people that really know the car. Likewise, GM should make it possible so that the most V8's will be on the street as possible. If the V8 model is out of reach for most buyers, that will be uber-sad.

I'm preparing to be disappointed...
Yeah but its kinda hard to have a middle when there is not an odd number....

Well unless you group the middle two....

And who said the V8 will be out of reach? Ford sells plenty of GT's for around 30 grand.....("around" above and below 30)
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Yeah but its kinda hard to have a middle when there is not an odd number....

Well unless you group the middle two....

And who said the V8 will be out of reach? Ford sells plenty of GT's for around 30 grand.....("around" above and below 30)
25k Mustang GT? Part of the GTO disadvantage aside from Mustang going retro, was being 5 K more than the GT and 3k more than the Premium at 27k Old numbers now but still applies...
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Probably LED
LED Headlamps? I've never heard of any car having LEDs as headlamps. The ones on the concept do look like projectors.
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I think the hot V6 would be more like an optional base motor than the standard in the "mid level" vehicle.
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25k Mustang GT? Part of the GTO disadvantage aside from Mustang going retro, was being 5 K more than the GT and 3k more than the Premium at 27k Old numbers now but still applies...
Thats apples to oranges.....

Show me how many GTs go for less than 27 now

I expext our V8 model will be slightly more than Fords....but will out perform the heck out of it....
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LED Headlamps? I've never heard of any car having LEDs as headlamps. The ones on the concept do look like projectors.
Caddy STS SAE 100 concept.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/photos.c...ac-sts-sae-100


Also check out that powerplant.
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LED's are not going to happen in 2008. Maybe swiveling HID's but not LED's. They will debut on Caddy's/halo Buicks before you see them on a Camaro. Even then, we are talking 2010-2012.
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