http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJHqb...layer_embedded

In the first the Camaro driver is asleep at the wheel...



The 2nd is closer in the launch...

But the Camaro still got walked.

Not good.

 

250lbs lbs between cars that are within 20hp of each other. There's no other way to work it out, lol.

The only good news is that MT went 12.8 with the '11 Stang and a few other rags have been 12.9 with the SS.

Looks like, despite the weight, its still a drivers race.

THe 6.2L must be doing something right in the TQ department that the new 5.0L is not.

Also bear in mind that the car in that video, is it not the same one the drove to a dyno and it put down like 30 more HP than it should have? If its not a ringer... lol

 

IMHO, the Mustang is going to suffer from a fuel cutoff that is too close to its peak power (6600 peak with a 6850 or 7000 rpm limiter, depending upon what you're reading), hurting the ability to maximize HP in each gear. Nothing that a chip/tune couldn't fix, but then it wouldn't be stock.

On paper, the GT should have a small advantage. On the street.....remains to be seen.

 

What did a Camaro SS do on the unprepped runway that MT pulled off a 12.8 with?

Lets see them both line up on the same day/surface.

 

Ok

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html

 

Reading the thread title I was thinking somebody did a horrible University of Texas camaro.

(or Tennessee, Tampa, or Toledo, I'm from Texas so here UT means Texas)

 

The fact that anyone would even think about picking the lumbering Challenger ahead of the Camaro in a "pony car" shootout, much less actually do so, should be a wake-up call.

 

it only means that I have to start doing some mods...

 

Exactly...
People were comparing best times from one review on one track, to another...
SO many variables... they were just using it to justify what they wanted to see/hear.

 

The result is not surprising to anyone with any sense...

 

Somebody cruel works at Ford, the GT500 makes peak power at 6000 rpm and fuel cut-off is at 6250, WTH man!

I've been thinking about diddling with the fuel cut off and raising it another 250 rpm to see how things work out?

 

i wanna see how it matches up to the camaro around a track. not just a drag race. and a very bad drag race at that.

 

What difference would lower gearing make to Camaro's quarter times? I'm guessing not that much.

The quarter mile is one race but we Aussies just love our circuit racing. I'm wondering what the difference between Mustang and Camaro would be around an open circuit? It's the only way to uncover each car's apparent strengths and weaknesses.

 

Here in the States, road courses are few and far between...but stoplights are everywhere.

Mustang's aggressive gearing, competitive horsepower and lighter weight make a compelling package (not to mention superior interior execution).

To equalize power to weight (assuming accurate engine output ratings) Camaro needs an additional 15 or so horsepower. Not much. The cars are within 250 pounds (same-ish difference between a Fox and an IROC - and the IROC outhandled the Fox). Many vehicles heavier than Camaro outhandle Camaro. Details and execution are letting the Camaro down.

With chassis tuning, alternative gearing (gas guzzler tax be damned), an interior re-design and improved execution, the Camaro can be more competitive than it is at the moment. The current car will quickly reach a point where its styling will no longer carry they day. The car needs to be better than the competition to survive, and at the moment, it clearly is not.

 

If the SS ends up getting a gas guzzler tax and the new GT500 doesn't that would be sad.