V8 Slayer

if its really hitting the streets in 2009 and it just turned 2006...No... Its progressing as fast as any other car on its way to the market..

Once again, Ill believe it, when I see it. Or at least read that its been given an official "go"

number77

Hehehehe. So that means it's fast huh?
We have all agreed, that it would be pointless in making this car debut in 2009. GM has worked hard, not just to please us enthusiasts, but to attract new attention, from the average consumer. This means that they are planning on producing it. If they just wanted to keep us car guys (and gals) at bay, they'd just show it at gatherings. Like Bowling Green and the Woodward Dream Cruise. But they went on to make a running, and a moch up car to spread the new image.
Now I'm not saying there wasn't some meaning behind the dream cruise vehicles. Now that we know we are getting a Camaro, it might not be a bad time to take a look back at those vehicles, and see what made them stick out cause it might make it to the CAMARO.

The Chevy Colorado concept 6.2 L 420 hp at 5600 rpm 420 lb-ft at 4600 rpm
The GTO concept
24 valve
Engine Displacement: 6.4L (389 CID)
Bore: 105.03mm (4.135”)
Stroke: 92.00mm (3.622”)
REV Limit: 7000 RPM
Peak Hp: 575 Hp @ 6800 RPM
Peak Tq: 500 Lb-Ft @ 5200 RPM
Compression Ratio: 10.5:1
Cam Shaft: Custom GM Hyd Roller
Valve lift: 15.75mm (.620”)
Cam Duration Int: 232 deg @ .050” Tappet
Cam Duration Exh: 272 deg @ .050” Tappet
90mm Throttle Body
Dual Mass Air Flow sensors, Cold air induction system

Camaro500

They do testing this time of year out there. They were testing the Saturn Aura in Feb when I was there.

guionM

Just to clear some things up.

First, when we are talking about a 2009 Camaro, we are talking about a car that's coming out between January 1st and December 31st 2008. Between 21 and 30 months from now, not calander year 2009.

Second, with that type of time frame, it's probally foolhardy to think there isn't some type of mule or mules running around, or perhaps even early prototypes.

Third, just because Australia is working on items on Camaro & "Belair" doesn't mean it's going to go through testing there 1st. GM ships mules and protoitypes around depending on when and what's being tested. Hot weather testing is done here and down under, depending on the time of the year. Cold weather testing is done in central Canada and Sweden.


I'm not dismissing the guy's sighting. The details seem accurate, and the way he described it is credible. It's just obvious they wouldn't be doing hot weather testing this time of year here (Australia's the favorite this time of year).

IF what he saw was Camaro, and they are already doing real world road testing, and the sheetmetal needed extensive body camoflage, my guess is that would put the production car somewhere around the 24 month range to, IMHO.

falchulk

ok, I thought the gt500 mule had the big ole scoop, not cowl induction hood!!

Rob V

There's the hood.

ssheets

I live right where you are talking about ( Ilive in Gardnerville and work in Minden). I remember in 82 or there abouts I saw 3 C4 mules going through town. 6th street and 395 in Minden. That's where my old office was. The C4s looked complete, but all badging was covered up with shipping wrap. I don't remember what exact wheels they had, but they sure weren't chromed ZR1s.

I beleive there is a testing facility somewhere near here.

Whitten

It does indeed have a vented hood now, but while in early testing phases it went through a series of hoods one of which was a 2.5" Cowl so that they could clear the Whipple Twin Screw supercharger.

At that stage of the game sheetmetal changes hadn't been finalized, nor had the fact that they weren't going to go with an IRS. They were testing all possibilities even a 3 valve 5.4. The point is that they were testing the drivetrain and and what not way before the car was even announced.


Like guionM said, it is slated for a 2009 model run which means it will be availible in 2008 at some time. With as anticipated as this car is, I would not doubt if GM is trying to hurry up to catch Ford here. I am sure that they are wanting this car out and ready to compete as fast as possible, and that means they are going to be testing the car right now since that process can take 12-24 months.

sselie

Hey Tim!
Welcome to the board!! Sure is gettin' interesting! I'm hoping for an official announcement in the next 2-3 weeks!

Best regardSS,

Elie

Whitten

That is not the final production hood. Things changed even after the car was announced and the prototype was shown. The current hood looks like this:



At any rate we are talking about the Camaro here so...

95nicotineZ

ssheets! Good to see another local. I chased the trio all the way past Carson Valley Middle School, past the AM/PM, all the way up 395 where it goes uphill past NAPA. I had to turn around 'cause I was going a little out of my way since I live in Carson. Wish I had a friggin' camera!

So I'm pretty sure now the last car was a '07/'08 CTS-V tester. The car I saw looks a LOT like the '07 pics I've seen. As far as the Avalanche, I don't know. Maybe it was a 2500. I couldn't see the wheel lugs since I was gawking at the middle car

I hope what I saw was a running-gear tester for what will surely pimpslap the new Mustang, especially when Lingenfelter or Callaway gets ahold of it. I guess we'll see. Wish Don Yenko was around...

I appreciate the naysayers as well as the believers. It never fails: every time I see this stuff I never have a friggin' camera. I got a Canon Digital ELPH today that should do the job later on. I also saw a couple of Hyundai testers a few weeks ago, a new sedan and SUV. They had a couple of Sonatas escorting them. They took HWY 88 for some reason.

The cold-weather testing issue is for sure: it's around 0c/32f right now with snow here, and in Michigan it's probably worse. Maybe high-altitude or something? We're at 4200 but I'm not sure what MI is at. Who knows.

The exhaust was at the edges of the rear bumper cover, round with a little flat spot at the top. A little different than the concept but similar. The last car (the CTS-V?) had round tips with no flat spot. All black.

A friend at work suggested maybe a "hot" hardtop Solstice but I doubt it. Who would want a Super/Turbo ECOTEC roadster?

Hope to see them again!

-Dave

ssheets

Kills me knowing they went by that close. My house is about a mile off the highway just South of Gardnerville. Like I said, I've seen mules here before so believe it's very possible.

BTW, we're a little higher than that. Minden/Gardnerville is 4750ft and of course everything around us is uphill.

!!!TED!!!

95nicotineZ:
Can you describe in further detail the car you believe was a Camaro mule.
What color was it (behind the camo, if you could see).
Why did you think it was a Camaro? Was it the same proportions/layout as the concept? Could you see at all inside?

UHP-CAMARO

Could very well be as Donner Pass is at 7,089 feet and not that far away from where you spotted it.

JakeRobb

Hehe, most of Michigan's lower peninsula is around 700ft.

But, Guy said cold weather testing is done in Canada and Sweden, and I tend to believe him.

GM seems to have released pretty much the entire 2007 model year in the first two months of 2006. If they're consistent, that means we might see a 2009 Camaro in less than 24 months.

I still wish there would be a 40th anniversary 2007 Camaro, but it's just not going to happen.