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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Subtleties that make a good car great.

Being a homegrown Detroit suburbia GM brat my entire life, it's blasphemous looking at a new Mustang and contemplating owning one. But what's a gear head to do when it's the only American muscle car that's deserving of such attention? Ford guys need not to get excited over a GM fan taking notice, trust me it's due to lack of options not lack of loyalty. With that said, one can only speculate my excitement and anticipation for the Camaro revival. Quite recently my step Father bought a 2006 Mustang GT and it is absolutely stunning. It's not the performance by any means necessary that makes me say that, it's the subtleties that make this good car great. Like how you can choose from 119 different colors for the gauges (that's a different color every other day) and if you hit the right buttons on the key fob your windows roll down and activate a sensor that triggers the alarm with any movement in the interior and how about different wheel options, all this from the factory! Any how, I hope the guys over at GM are thinking along the same path. I'd love the buy the top of the line Camaro with DVD navigation, or Bluetooth or even better a built in G-Tech Pro-like devise (Reaction-Time, 0-60mph time, 1/4 mile E.T. and speed, Horsepower & Torque, Braking distance and Handling G's). Do you think GM's paying attention or am I putting to much stock in attention to detail?

Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Good post, yes I think GM knows their future products must have an attention to detail.

I also think the new Camaro will be a slam dunk in this respect.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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I hope they do, i would love it if it came with some of those options.

Like:
Navi/Bluetooth
Fuel and trip computer
HUD
A Telemetry Computer like the Challenger Concept.
Gauge color options from in cockpit.
Different color trim, maybe a Satin Silver, and Piano Black
Different Wheel options
Maybe a subltle rally or bumble bee stripe
Brake Caliper Color options.

Unfortunatley, i bet only 1 or maybe 2 of these things will even be an option.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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I can say for sure GM is paying attention to detail, and they are looking at what kinds of technology should be implemented in the 5th gen:

http://www.5thgen.org/forum/showthread.php?t=381
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Apparently you have not heard of the new 400HP GTO?

I do like the new Mustang. I considered one before I bought my GTO. But I was keenly disappointed with the rear legroom and headroom in the Mustang... as well as interior quality (for example, the gauges are SO retro you can barely read them). Color-adjustable gauge lighting? I sincerely HOPE the next Camaro doesn't have such silly frills. Instead, make the Camaro what it's famous for - a king of performance value.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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I think its smart actually..Mustang has gone to lengths to appeal to females...and say what you want about it being a Girl Car (which it is), at least you can go out and buy one still, which is more than I can say for our beloved F-car.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Mustang has gone to lengths to appeal to females...and say what you want about it being a Girl Car (which it is), at least you can go out and buy one still, which is more than I can say for our beloved F-car.
Agreed, females have been more likely to buy a Mustang than a Camaro, but does that make Mustang a Girl Car? Bob Crosby drove a Girl Car? I think not. I believe more females bought Firebirds than Camaros (among the very few that bought F-body cars in the first place), so does the same logic apply to the Firebird. I owned a Girl Car? Once again, I think not.

However, I respect your opinion, sort of. If females had stayed away from the Mustang the way they shunned the Camaro, the Mustang may also have been put "on hiatus". Buyers are what keep the production line running, the gender is irrelevant.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Girl car = a friendly jab at our Mustang friends. Try not to take me too seriously.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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When I think of subtleties I don't think of gimmicks. I think subtleties are the material choices, ergonomics, the feel of things that are used on a regular basis, the readability of the gauges, the speed of the windows, the sounds of a door closing, the visibility, the placement of cup holders, road feel, the brake feel, long drive comfort, HVAC noise levels, solid armrests, firm door handles, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I would prefer all the subtleties be absolutely perfect before adding gimmicks like color changing dash lights.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDarknFast
Color-adjustable gauge lighting? I sincerely HOPE the next Camaro doesn't have such silly frills.
Ok, I must admit. I'd love to be able to change the color of the lighting. Why be stuck with what the manufacturer wants when you can change it? And it's a very minor thing. If you like the original color, just don't ever change it...
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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To me, attention to detail is more about interior quality, the way the doors close and small panel gaps than 'gimmicky' colored guage lighting and bells and whistles.

I'm sure the Monte Carlo can have all the bells and whistles, too but it just doesn't change the character of the car. What Mustang does have is character, and that's what sets it apart from other cars.

Camaro can't come soon enough!

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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To me, attention to detail is more about interior quality, the way the doors close and small panel gaps than 'gimmicky' colored guage lighting and bells and whistles.

I'm sure the Monte Carlo can have all the bells and whistles, too but it just doesn't change the character of the car. What Mustang does have is character, and that's what sets it apart from other cars.

Camaro can't come soon enough!
Agreed. The only wacky thing about the Mustang dash lights - to me anyway - it doesn't seem to be part of the character of Mustangs.
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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ive got some inside info through work that forces me to no longer be able to talk about the camaro...nanana na na na but i can honestly say that 119 color choices wont have **** on this if gm decides to build it
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cjmatt
ive got some inside info through work that forces me to no longer be able to talk about the camaro...nanana na na na but i can honestly say that 119 color choices wont have **** on this if gm decides to build it
i hate you!!! you get me all excited
Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Everything I need for excitement about the new Camaro is already apparent from what is visible in plain sight



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