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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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"OMG OMG Pre-production headlights" <--sarcasm toward uninformed complainers

So I know that theres been the beating of the dead horse about the pre-pro's headlights and we all should know that they are not how the final version is going to look, but I have a question: Why are they experimenting with different headlight designs to begin with? I understand that the Concept's Halo lights might be out of line for cost or other reasons (after all the only production company using them is BMW to my best knowledge) but even Bumblebee had standard halogen bulbs and looked fine.

The classic pony car look is the round lights stuck into place like on the original '69 and thats what we see the new Challenger and Mustang doing so why is Chevy testing all these different styles?

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Don't worry about it.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The Engel
So I know that theres been the beating of the dead horse about the pre-pro's headlights and we all should know that they are not how the final version is going to look, but I have a question: Why are they experimenting with different headlight designs to begin with? I understand that the Concept's Halo lights might be out of line for cost or other reasons (after all the only production company using them is BMW to my best knowledge) but even Bumblebee had standard halogen bulbs and looked fine.

The classic pony car look is the round lights stuck into place like on the original '69 and thats what we see the new Challenger and Mustang doing so why is Chevy testing all these different styles?
The pre-prodcution cars' headlights are just generic auto parts store lights. They're glued onto the cars. They're only there to provide light until the final production pieces are ready.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Gosh friggin' damn it! I was hoping for pics!
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:23 AM
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Gosh frigging' damn it! I was hoping for pics!
Me too. Seriously, change the freakin' title; its a little misleading. The pre-production lights have nothing to do with what is being "tested", they're simply what was available and what fit to allow them to test the cars at night.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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Don't worry about it.

I'm not at all. I think everyone else flipping out over it is unnecessary. The tread title is meant to make fun of all the concerns. I just think its causing worries that could be easily avoided with a simpler quick fix design needed at the time.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Me too. Seriously, change the freakin' title; its a little misleading. The pre-production lights have nothing to do with what is being "tested", they're simply what was available and what fit to allow them to test the cars at night.
If I knew how to I would. But hey, now we have a place for people to flip out over headlight design that will never be.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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now we have a place for people to flip out over headlight design that will never be.
They've been doing that in several threads on several different websites ever since the pre-production photos surfaced on the web. I wish GM would get the production lamps finished and installed soon... just to shut up the uninformed who criticize the fake ones.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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They've been doing that in several threads on several different websites ever since the pre-production photos surfaced on the web. I wish GM would get the production lamps finished and installed soon... just to shut up the uninformed who criticize the fake ones.
Word! And thats kinda the reason for my original question. Why is something so simple, in my opinion, taking so long to be shown off? And also something so small is causing so much uproar.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
They've been doing that in several threads on several different websites ever since the pre-production photos surfaced on the web. I wish GM would get the production lamps finished and installed soon... just to shut up the uninformed who criticize the fake ones.
The production headlights come from a supplier and when dealing with another large corp. and their suppliers, timing and other issues can come up to delay the process.
I would bet that GM has some production headlights and has already worked out the packaging issues. But for alpha and beta test mules the lights are not needed and can be worked up behind closed doors. There is no need to hold up full vehicle testing for headlights.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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Gosh friggin' damn it! I was hoping for pics!
I'll admit I was had as well! What a let down... we really need some new pics or info to get the boards hopping again.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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The production headlights come from a supplier and when dealing with another large corp. and their suppliers, timing and other issues can come up to delay the process.
I would bet that GM has some production headlights and has already worked out the packaging issues. But for alpha and beta test mules the lights are not needed and can be worked up behind closed doors. There is no need to hold up full vehicle testing for headlights.
I wonder if they are using generic lights in the test cars not because they don’t have the real lights yet, but because they have come up with something special (halos, LEDs, HIDs, hidden etc.) that they don’t want anyone to see yet. It would give the competition less time to react and generate a little buzz closer to release the release date.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Even if they come out to be generic headlights, they're going to be "special" in their own right. To be able to come up with a single headlight unit that fits in a relatively small space and still provides both an adequate low and high beam will be quite an achievment.
I wonder who the headlight supplier is.

BTW, forget about LEDs and hidden lights. LEDs are extremely expensive and don't even perform as well as HIDs. Just to get respectable performance look how big they had to make the headlight assembly in the Escalade Platinum. The 5 outer LEDs make up just the low beam!



As for hidden lights, they're illegal now.
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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i was walking down the block yesterday and i saw a new chevy tahoe. i think those headlights would look mean on the camaro. they just would need to make them a little bit smaller. would any one be able to photoshop the tahoes headlights onto the new camaro
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Grape Ape
I wonder if they are using generic lights in the test cars not because they don’t have the real lights yet, but because they have come up with something special (halos, LEDs, HIDs, hidden etc.) that they don’t want anyone to see yet. It would give the competition less time to react and generate a little buzz closer to release the release date.
I think that is a very distinct possability too. Just because GM has shown us most of the exterior doesn't mean thay need to show everything. To me even if the headlights are more like Bumblebee's over the concepts' it still looks good.



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