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View Poll Results: Rate the Camaro Concept on a Scale of 1-10, 10 being the highest
10
249
34.34%
9
221
30.48%
8
135
18.62%
7
42
5.79%
6
21
2.90%
5
17
2.34%
4
10
1.38%
3
6
0.83%
2
7
0.97%
1
17
2.34%
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OFFICIAL CamaroZ28.Com "Camaro Concept" Feedback Poll

Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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a beautiful machine,i think i believe in god again,just try to make the car look a little bit less "angry" and its perfect
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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I am very disappointed in this concept because it is so unaerodynamic, especially the front end. I want a car with a low coefficient of drag to save on fuel as much as possible. Why can't it look more like the C6? Gas prices will be going up exponentially and will be up in the stratosphere by the time this car is produced, making this concept unaffordable to fuel.
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DanGonta
I am very disappointed in this concept because it is so unaerodynamic, especially the front end. I want a car with a low coefficient of drag to save on fuel as much as possible. Why can't it look more like the C6? Gas prices will be going up exponentially and will be up in the stratosphere by the time this car is produced, making this concept unaffordable to fuel.
Wait till you get the test on this car before you worry about that and have you looked at all the other cars coming out these days this car will cut the air way better than most and I have seen it close up.
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Unless you're an designer/engineer, you have no place to say that anything is or isn't aerodynamic.

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DanGonta
I am very disappointed in this concept because it is so unaerodynamic, especially the front end. I want a car with a low coefficient of drag to save on fuel as much as possible. Why can't it look more like the C6? Gas prices will be going up exponentially and will be up in the stratosphere by the time this car is produced, making this concept unaffordable to fuel.
You're kidding, right? You think you can do aero work off of a press release photo?

And, if gas prices are going up exponentially, then we'll all be walking within a month!

C'mon, if you don't like the car, then just say so! All this pseudo-engineeringspeak just makes you look, well, dumb.
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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I voted a 9. The concept puts tears of joy in my eyes, but it need s few minor tweaks. The grill, header panel opening, and the interior needs to be modernized more.

Other than those things I would have voted a 10.
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DanGonta
I am very disappointed in this concept because it is so unaerodynamic, especially the front end. I want a car with a low coefficient of drag to save on fuel as much as possible. Why can't it look more like the C6? Gas prices will be going up exponentially and will be up in the stratosphere by the time this car is produced, making this concept unaffordable to fuel.
Mr. Gonta,

I suggest that you resist shopping for a sports coupe and continue driving your Geo Metro. If you absolutely must have a new vehicle that is aerodynamically perfect and gets the best fuel mileage possible, you should consider building yourself a recumbent bicycle with enclosed bubble fairing and a two horsepower DC electric motor with a drycell for its power source. You could actually do pretty well on an autocross course with something like that, I'd imagine.

However, gas mileage and aerodynamics are probably not at the very top of the list of Camaro engineering priorities. Driver emotion, driving excitement, and styling are probably closer to the top for this particular concept.
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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the car is beautifull every inch, is just like one member said "its pure sex"
i give it a 10 it gives you the very definition of what a muscle car means
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ss_slayer
the car is beautifull every inch, is just like one member said "its pure sex"
i give it a 10 it gives you the very definition of what a muscle car means

x2...it looks TOTALLY BADAZZ

If you are looking for good gas mileage, go buy a 4-banger

If you want a fast,chick-flocking sports car, you will buy the new CAMARO
Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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I waited to post here until I really looked at every little thing and got a real feel for the car. I gave it a 7 and still feel it's too 1st Gen retro.

-The front of this car needs work. The grill is just wrong, (can't say that enough) that scoop before the hood is wrong, the headlights being that recessed are wrong, the front lower GFX/spoiler should at least be even with the bumper or extend a little more. The headlights and parking lights are just a little weird. Hopefully there'll be an RS option with hideaways flush with the grill opening or something.

-The back needs work. The taillights should be made a solid piece but retain that edge shape, kinda like the 67 RS. (someone PSed this and it was real nice) It should at least be an option or available on higher models, right now it has a kind of 68 RS kinda-not look. Put the back up lights in that bumper somewhere, there's certainly lots of room. The spoiler is terrible, like an afterthought. It absolutely needs to be much higher and needs to extend the whole length of the back, not just the trunk only. The fake tips are lousy, some nice regular angle cut tips would be way better than those tips inside tips.

-The side is nice, not sure if I'd change anything. Quarter windows aren't necessary though.

-Take those 2 lines off of the roof and the lines that go from the pillars over the windows are unnecessary too. Also, I feel the car is about an inch too high, lower that roofline some if possible.

-The interior needs the gauges, console, and shifter redesigned. Enough with full-out retro dashes, but if you're gonna make the dash where the speedometer (should be on left) and tach are (should be on right) round like the 67/68's and not square like the 69's, it'd look way better.

Overall, I like the car, it's just a little too retro and too 1st Gen. I can see some 3rd Gen in it but it's not enough IMO, and it's probably really because 3rds happen to have some decently similar lines to the 67 and 68's in places. (and that's the only other Gen in it besides the 68/69 years) This car needs to get the models right and each must have unique looks and performance. The Z28 must be the top model. Or else.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
Hell No! It just los the 1/4 windows short doors and rear window and just ruined the back seat and trunk. Nice job on the chop though...


i loved it, with the wrap around rear window, it's awesome
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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gave it a 9. i love it personally but with the gauges being in the floor you know places like motortrend and car and driver are going to complain.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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I've always wanted to own a Camaro ever since I graduated from high school. I promised myself that I would buy a black SS upon receiving my diploma from college. When GM decided to stop making the Camaro, I was disheartened and had to settle for a much inferior competitor's car, you know which one I'm talking about. Hope has been restored and I will most definately own the new Camaro, if and when it goes on sale.

a beautiful machine,i think i believe in god again,just try to make the car look a little bit less "angry" and its perfect
Sorry to hear that. Nothing says "kindly move out of my way before I pass you on the shoulder," like an aggressive if not angry looking front end.
Old Jan 18, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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if you look at the camaros through the generations you can see the family linage and evolution to the current fourth gen. even the "catfish" grill in the 4th gen harkens back to the 70-73 second gens. the shape of the b-pilliar goes back to the second gens also. however the design was not retro, but a progression. this design is soley a retro design. as if you took a 69 and updated it for 2009. one of the most endering factors to the GM and even more the Chevrolet product lines is that in just about every model you can see the family linage and progression through evolution through the years. if you stacked every chevy truck year for year next to eachother you can follow it, same with the vette. even though the C6 uses some cues from earlier generation vettes, it also encompasses a further development of the C5 it replaced. this car does none of that for the Camaro. in a period where ford and dodge are using their past glory to trump sales (with the exception of the charger, cuz they are just using the name and trying like hell to make it cool) you would think GM would look forward and step away from the pack. the rendering that has been posted in other threads, altho not completly correct, is the direction i think that the boys at the bowtie works would and should go.

yes i am happy that they are talking big V-8 and rear wheel drive, that tickles me no end. however, if you are going to call it a name that has as much history as this one does then the shape and feel of the car should reflect that. and as pointed out earlier in this thread, by the time this hits production peole will have tired of the whole retro thing.
we should learn from history, not repeat it

after looking at this car for a few days and reading feedback from a number of sites i feel i must qualify my remarks about this concept car. i like the design, it is very clean and muscular as a car of this type should be. it is a bit over the top as a concept car should be. i guess it is more that i am dissapointed, because i expected something else. i expected a continuation of the line that we have been seeing over the last 35 years.

i own three of the for current generations, a 1st, 3rd, and 4th, we are looking for a 2nd gen and we may buy the 5th should it hit production, so we have a full set. and this may be where my predication to a further evolved 5th gen comes from. if you cannot see the design trends that carry from one generation to the next and evolve in the existing 4 generations, then maybe you havent looked hard enough. the short deck long hood is prevealnt for all generations, the grill and headlight placement of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen shadow eachother. the 2nd gen went from the small rear windo to the wrap around rear window that caused a distinct b-pillar shape, and is further drawn out in the 3rd gen with the b-pillar leaning forward, and then nicely rounded in the 4th gen. being a design professional i noticed these little details.

yes it has been the record as of the last few years that concept cars are closer to their production cousins, but this is not the traditional way that automakers have preformed in the past. i imagine the resonse from the media and the surveys that GM is taking about this car is very overwhelming, and very positive. but as FbodFather said there will be alot of the fbody faithful that will be dissapointed. some see the "retro" and "heritage" styling as the same thing, a lack of fresh idea and inspriation.

to that end, i applaud GM for seeing that they need to be in the 2-door rear drive v-8 market, as they do make the best v-8 ever designed. as the chevrolet division again out sold the whole ford company, yes the first time in 19 years, but before that it was something like 25years running, the competion seems not to be the great factor it may have been in the past.

i predict that the bowtie boys will sell this thing like it was going outta style, particulary if they do some of the wild off center stuff that chevrolet is famous for. like offerin limited editions that have WAY too much power etc. as evident by the introduction of the C-6 and the C-6 Z06, chevrolet has been known to deliver the most "bang for the buck" and i imagine that they will continue to deliver.

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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 05:09 AM
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I went with an 8.

I think it needs a Nascar style rear spoiler, like the current Monte Carlo SS (like mine!). Lose the mirrors and steal the ones off the Belair concept. Straighten the front end so it doesn't droop in the center, it looks mashed down in the middle. It's distracting when you see both the side and front end at the same time. Oh, and change the grille, it's hideous. That's the few things I don't like about it.

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