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Old 03-08-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Not true; assuming 4% inflation per year and comparing MSRP to MSRP for a 2002 bare-bones Z28 vs a 2010 1SS, the 2010 is slightly cheaper.
I think the 2010 is a decent value, but it's still more expensive. The Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator (http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 as $26,854.01 in 2010 dollars. ($4090.99 less than a 2010 1SS)

The U.S. inflation calculator (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 at $27,697.15 in 2010 dollars. ($3247.85 less than a 2010 1SS)
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:09 PM
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That's some great news!

I'm not worried about the new Mustang one bit, maybe this 2011 model might be even with the Camaro this year. You know GM won't let them get too close
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I think the 2010 is a decent value, but it's still more expensive. The Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator (http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 as $26,854.01 in 2010 dollars. ($4090.99 less than a 2010 1SS)

The U.S. inflation calculator (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 at $27,697.15 in 2010 dollars. ($3247.85 less than a 2010 1SS)
Both of those calculators are using data from the Consumer Price Index, which isn't a very good measure when we're talking explicitly about cars. That's more useful when talking about the price inflation of day-to-day expenses like food and clothing.

Unfortunately, there isn't any particularly good way to compare prices of cars over time, so I used the generally-accepted standard of 4% per year.
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Both of those calculators are using data from the Consumer Price Index, which isn't a very good measure when we're talking explicitly about cars. That's more useful when talking about the price inflation of day-to-day expenses like food and clothing.

Unfortunately, there isn't any particularly good way to compare prices of cars over time, so I used the generally-accepted standard of 4% per year.
I'm not going to argue as I'm not an economist and it's sounds like you know more about it than I, but aren't automobiles figured into the CPI? Do they represent a small enough part of the whole that while they are in the calculation they actually don't follow the rules of the calculation?
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Old 03-08-2010, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I'm not going to argue as I'm not an economist and it's sounds like you know more about it than I, but aren't automobiles figured into the CPI? Do they represent a small enough part of the whole that while they are in the calculation they actually don't follow the rules of the calculation?
It turns out that vehicle sales are included, both new and used, although I found nothing to indicate what percentage of the total it entails, nor what the weighting is for the overall index.
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Originally Posted by PacerX
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Finally there's the proof how EPICALLY AND COMPLETELY DUNDERHEADED IT WAS to let the F4 languish for years, kill the car, and then bring out a Solstice, Sky and (my personal favorite "dumbest car evar") the SSR.
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As if the 400 million pounds of material didn't exist anywhere on the planet and just materialized out of thin air.

Sorry... thinking like an engineer again.

Remind me to never go to a comedy club with you.
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Originally Posted by Eric77TA
I think the 2010 is a decent value, but it's still more expensive. The Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator (http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 as $26,854.01 in 2010 dollars. ($4090.99 less than a 2010 1SS)

The U.S. inflation calculator (http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/) puts $22,295.00 in 2002 at $27,697.15 in 2010 dollars. ($3247.85 less than a 2010 1SS)
Yeah it doesn't do any good to argue they will come out with some number to prove they are right. I made my point and you understood it the same way.
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Remind me to never go to a comedy club with you.
I'm just tired of people making cracks about the Camaro's weight without any relevance or perspective. Yes, we know its a heavy coupe. Get over it!

If you don't want an almost two-ton sports coupe, buy a Corvette and shut the hell up!
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this is AWESOME news! it's only been about 1 calendar year since it went on sale too so the 1.5 model year thing really doesn't come into play yet. I hope it can maintain a good level until a 6th gen comes out :-)
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Until a Z28 is produced that can run 11s, I'm still going ahead with my plans to drop an LS3/L99 into my 4th gen.
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