Originally Posted by Z284ever

Now this, I agree with wholeheartedly. Camaro needs to tap into fresh buyers in a big way. In a way it hasn't done in over two decades. The enthusiast community doesn't really need much marketing. The nuts and bolts and performance figures will market themselves to these groups.

Regarding those new buyers, I am concerned if Camaro will produce the right MPG numbers to attract them in large numbers. We'll see.

Getting back to the Z/28 and this article....

Although this particular Z/28 does not address my specific formula for it, I hope it survives and thrives, since it'll be so recognizable as a halo for the rest of the line and be such a powerful marketing icon.

OTOH, I can see the sensitivity of bringing out a 4100 pound, 6.2 liter, supercharged, Camaro, in our current environment. It's kind of like lighting up a filterless Lucky Strike and reminiscing about your baby seal clubbing expedition, while ordering the veal, at the Audubon Society luncheon.

Originally Posted by 8Banger

Holy crap!! Well, if the Z28 does come out, it's really gonna be hard to get your hands
on one now. People are gonna get panic-ed to buy one now or wait and never get the chance again.

Originally Posted by 1fastdog

Everyones perceptions may, indeed, be different. My impression of Z/28 prices, and I have purchased five of them over the course of four generations, it has always been a sweet deal BUT not cheap.

A bargain is a matter of perceived value.

My 1969 Z/28 was a bit over $3,600.00. It certainly wasn't econo car money in '69. It was a looker, a runner, and I loved the car. It didn't have air conditioning. Lower performance V-8 Camaros were priced considerably less at the time. I think a base SS Camaro was a hundred or two less.. I may be getting older, but my memory of these sorts of things is usually quite good.

At the time I bought the '69 dealers were not discounting Z/28's at all. During the time from my order for the car and the building Chevrolet was required the console and guage package as a forced option. I really didn't want the option, but it wasn't that big of a deal to me in the final analysis. WHen my car came in < LeMans Blue , cowl induction, white interior > the dealer was quite interested in me going for an SS off the lot instead. Even to the point of being willing to discount any SS they had to get me off the Z/28. It was that hot of a car at the time and I had spec'ed one that was a good showroom piece. Point is, I never recall Camaro being the bargain basement fast car. I was the genuine performance "deal"... "cheap"? NO.

My 1970 1/2 Z/28 was a little more in price... still no air. My '79 was a little over $6500. I converted it from an automatic to a 4 speed within days... Put a 3:73 posi in it as well.

My 1982 Z/28 was a under $10,500. My '95 was close to $23,500. All were memorable rides and I have tons of good memories of them. I saw them all as good deals. I don't recall any being the least expensive ways to go. Just the best.

I think in the 60's and 70's the Z was always a higher base priced Camaro. Granted, you could option an SS higher out the door.

The return of the SS Camaro in the 1990's was where the base price reversed with the SS being the pricier base car in comparison.

I really don't know what the pricing will show for the 5th gen. I am confident it will still be a performance bargain.

I'm sure if my recollection is clouded, someone will step up to correct me.

Originally Posted by Fbodfather

I posted this on another site -- and I'll post it here.

I am not doubting that Jim got a telephone call from someone -- but I don't know who that is -- and rumors are running rampant here in the Motor City right now -- so --if it makes you feel better -- send a note as SuperChevy is asking you to do ---

now -- that said: without further ado:


"...........Articles like this really put me up the wall -- past the pictures -- and on to the ceiling.

The Camaro (and Z28) is not Dead.

(......in my opinion, there are some in the enthusiast community that hope it does die -- esp. on certain sites -- and that confounds me........not to mention giving a dangerous boost to my blood pressure......)

I don't know how these things get life -- but let me assure EVERYONE -- that every car and truck program out there is on the table right now -- and I think I can safely say that this is the case at the other two American manufacturers -- all one has to do is to look at what's happening to new vehicle sales -- coupled with the housing meltdown -- the budget deficit -- the elections -- the Dow Jones Industrials down by a breathtaking amount -- and of course, high energy costs that are forcing the price of everything upward................


Let us take a quick walk down memory lane - shall we?

The year is 1979 -- interest rates are double digit -- energy costs and inflation are spiraling out of control.......people are "upside down" on their loans for pickups and large cars................







.....................and yet Chevrolet somehow sold 282,000 Camaros -- TEN years into a lifecycle.

Yes -- the times are different -- but I'm betting that when people see the production car -- they see the value that the car offers -- and they see the fuel economy -- we'll sell a lot of 'em.


........I said a long time ago "Have Faith" -- and that's what I'm saying once again.

Originally Posted by FactoryZ

http://www.leftlanenews.com/camaro-w...8-is-dead.html

is this more of the same, or some new insider leaked info???????

Originally Posted by Z284ever

That's exactly my take as well. Until halfway through the 4th gen, the Z/28 always had a premium base MSRP compared to the other Camaros. Although never cheap, they always represented an excellent performance value.

Originally Posted by Johnny Ray

No Trans Am=no care.

Originally Posted by number77