I just saw on autoblog that the 2011 mustang is allegedly getting 412 horse power.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/17/2...power-5-0l-v8/

Without knowing final weight, it will probably be pretty close to the camaro speed numbers.

The mustang has a good package going on now with the added power, improved interior materials, sync and new exterior.

What would the camaro do next? I cannot wait to find out how GM responds. What do you guys think GM should do? Nothing, the new features (cooled seats, hud, backup sensonrs, etc) are enough, GM needs to upgrade the interior and offer sat nav or something better?

Competition is great and hopefully will make a better camaro for all of us!! I am excited to see how things shape up for the future.

 

Camaro needs to lose the IRS for starters

 

As wrong as wrong can be.

 

Don't know if losing the IRS would help, but having a more track oriented package from the factory that tights the suspension (like pedders) may put it a step above the similar track pack mustang.

 

IRS eats RWHP and weighs more the a live axle, oh and cost more too. Those are the cons, the pros?? It rides a lil better. In my eyes one out weighs the other....Bigtime!

 

better yet, lets put a 7.5" 10 bolt in it for the most cost/weight savings......

 

lol ^ If Chevy cant make a decent solid rear end what makes you think the IRS wont be made of glass too?

 

Yes, one does outweigh the other. 95% of the people buying the Camaro would rather better ride quality.

 

Probably, but it will take 2 or 3 years.

 

The pros? It keeps the Camaro current with market trends and it rides and handles better. This is what the majority of 2010 Camaro buyers want.

Yes, to some the solid axle is preferred the IRS, but that is the exception and not the rule. The car has to be built for the buying requirements of the majority of the market segment. This is why you cannot buy a top fuel funny car off a showroom floor. Think about the percentage of 2010 Camaro buyers who plan to take their car for a spirited drive down a curvy road once in a while and never take it to a drag strip. Compare that number to the percentage of the buyers who buy the car to be a drag racer.

Or in other words, if there was a solid axle option, a very low percentage or 2010 Camaro buyers would choose it. It would be cool to see, though!

 

Though I wish it weren't so (because of my personal preferences and biases), I'm pretty sure Jason hit the nail squarely on the head with this one.

 

There is a lot that GM can do to further refine the Camaro and keep it right in the fight with a lighter and now very closely powered Mustang.

Personally I think GM should offer a track pack type option for the SS. Tighten up the suspension to a more aggressive level and better utilize the IRS. Add 3.73 gears as the LS3 6M could use the extra gear. Then offer another exhaust option that could save some weight and pick up some HP. Advertise the power at 435-440hp and call it 1LE.

 

I agree with the better exhaust option. Hearing the weight loss from going to a better flowing exhaust is impressive. I really think tweaking the suspension more, change of exhaust, adding a CAI, and lighter wheels would make for a great package.

 

Not much needs to be sacrificed to get a bigger power boost. I think GM is going to wait and see how this new power plant for the Mustang will actually perform.

 

Oh how quickly these threads get jacked. lol