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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by toegead93
delete option 3, swap ss with z28 and it makes sense.
Word.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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I hope the SS has a LS3 just say 430hp and can be combined with the RS. Also can be offered in both manual and automatic transmissions. I would say something else but i don't want to get flamed or hassled.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:48 AM
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What I DO NOT want to happen is for GM to include an entry level V8 and artifically inflate the cost of the LS3 just because of the horsepower gains even though the costs associated with producing it may not be any different from the base V8.
AGREED!

Unfortunately, I'm a cynic and am a little afraid of the same thing.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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What i heard is:

3.9 V6 OHV 240HP, 325Nm Flex Fuel (E85) for $21,000
3.6 V6 DOHC DI VVT , 300HP, 366Nm
6.2 V8 OHV VVT, 450HP, 560Nm

and rumors for Europe (he's coming officall btw.) are:
3.0 V6 Turbo Diesel 250HP, 550Nm
4.5 V8 Turbo Diesel

all with 6 speed Auto OR Manual
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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I would like to think that GM learned their lesson about too many engine options during the thirdgen years. Half the reason that the thirdgens got a "slow" reputation was because Mustangs would pound up on LG4 and L03 cars and think that all thirdgens were that slow. GM wised up when they released the 4th gens with only one V8 engine. That way ALL of their cars would whip a mustang.

Then again, thirdgens were the best selling f-bodies in history, so what do I know?
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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I would like to think that GM learned their lesson about too many engine options during the thirdgen years.
Actually I think it's just the opposite. With the 4th Gen they learned that too few engine options hurt sales. It was a quantum leap between the 3.4/3.8 V6 and the LT1/LS1. There is a slew of potential customers out there who, for whatever reason, believed that more horsepower was a bad thing. The Mustang GT is the prime example of mid-level V8 popularity. GM sold 305-powered F-bodies in droves in the '80s.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroZ282008
5 engines seems somewhat legit to me. I think it'd be an excellent idea if GM could do this financially speaking as far as profit vs money it takes to produce all 5. Heres my look at what the Camaro should get if 5 engines are a possibility.

1. Basic V-6 ( 230 H.P.-250 T.Q.) Auto-
LT=Luxury Touring

2. Perfomance V-8 (6.2)LS3(430 H.P.-450 T.Q.)Manual/Auto
Z28 Model

3. Super Performance V-8 (6.2)LS3(Supercharged)(550 H.P.-620 T.Q.)
Manual Only
SS Model

Now being that the Camaro may weigh in possibly lighter then the Mustang and most def. the Challenger I think the top dog Camaro would fare just fine with out 650 H.P...But then again theres never TOO much HP/TQ.
I fixed it for you.

The only thing having 2 V6 power plants is going to do is drive up the price of the Base V8, then in essence driving up the price of anything higher than that.

We need a V6 @ 20-21k,
We need a V8 @ 27-30k,
We want a V8 bad boy @ 36-40k

But we will see.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Z/28lover
I fixed it for you.

The only thing having 2 V6 power plants is going to do is drive up the price of the Base V8, then in essence driving up the price of anything higher than that.

We need a V6 @ 20-21k,
We need a V8 @ 27-30k,
We want a V8 bad boy @ 36-40k

But we will see.

I don't agree. I mean, they can offer the 3.9L at about $21k, then the 3.6L at about ~$25k, then the base V8 at ~$28/29k.

Even if they only offer the 3.9L at $21k, you are still not going to get into the V8 for under $28k. So that means there is a $7,000 jump to the next engine option. IMO if they offer another V6 at ~300 HP in the $25-26k range, then that will really help to satisfy that void without necessarily increasing the cost of the V8. A $3,000 price jump from the top V6 to the base V8 is still a lot.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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I apologize.

Last edited by number77; Apr 6, 2007 at 06:53 PM.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by number77
Why!?!?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!?
The Top Model Will Be The Z28. Bottom Line. It has been decided already (and for good reason ). Scott said it himself.

You forgot to add this line under all that...

""

Tricking people into believing it won't force it to actually happen.
Old Apr 6, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Just playing, Jason. You da man.

edit: Jason editted it.

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