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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by DaSmurfy
This is coming from a guy that owned

85 Camaro
92 Camaro RS
94 Z-28
98 Z-28
00 Z-28

so, I kinda know what I'm talking about.
You think you know what your talking about?

That makes no sense, your opinion is yours. I would hope you know what your talking about.

I dont understand why you think your past ownership of cars has anything to do with whether or not you like something????

I mean, looks are subjective to every person, and you are entitled to your opionion, but i dont get why you think that it matters how much you know.

I could care less how much you know or how many cars you have owned, it doesnt support your opinion on the looks of a car...get what i mean?
Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by graham
You should drive them sometimes. They sound like nice cars, lol.


Old Jul 10, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

I've seen it twice in person, still not crazy about it.

Every previous generation introduced some bold new design element. This one doesn't even come close to it. I'm not looking for a "cheap 'Vette", er say, but something with a little originality. This is like listening to a cover band.
Old Jul 10, 2006 | 02:17 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

You aren't the only one. I've been bashed left and right for my opinion but that is fine.

And yes i've seen it in person
Old Jul 10, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by 2K1SunsetSS
You aren't the only one. I've been bashed left and right for my opinion but that is fine.

And yes i've seen it in person
No need to roll your eyes. There are a lot of people who don't like it in pictures, but love it in person.
Old Jul 10, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

I like it. All I can say is if you don't like it, don't buy it. I like it and plan on buying it, and driving it until the wheels fall off.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by Good Ph.D
By roots you mean since 1993?
Try 1970. Since then the Camaro has been more sports car than pony. Each Generation Camaro (other than the 1st) was heavily influenced by the Corvette of the time.

Look at these side by side pics and tell me they don't share styling principles:
Camaro Corvette comparisons
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Here's the thing.............

The Camaro inspires passion. That's why most people are on this site. (Exxcept a few!)

Any change is going to get people thinking...and change can be polarizing.

Frankly?

I never thought we'd have as many people as we do -- absolutely in love with the concept. I'm nuts about it......but let me also say that I was NOT happy with many of the alternative proposals.

Yes...for the most part. ....notice I said 'most part' -- those who don't like it change their opinion...and quickly, I might add.....when they see it in person.

There isn't a car or truck out there today that everyone can agree on. So, yes, I wish everyone loved it........that said, that's an impossibility.

An observation: some say to me: "It should be more retro!" ..and I immediately ask them their age. It's always over 35 or 40 years of age. And that's fine.......the problem is that if we don't appeal to the 18-35 age group, we're in trouble.

I think (and yes, I'm prejudiced...but as I said before, there were proposals that I threw up on........) that the concept balances a new design with heritage cues.

So........no, you are not the only one that may not like it....but I can safely say that you are in a minority. No matter where we take it, the response is overwhelmingly positive.

One last tidbit.....

When a new car is unveiled, you get applause.

That was not the case on January 9, 2006. There was great cheering, whistling, yelling, applauding.......and yes, several grown men and women in tears. As one person wrote me: ".......Mr. Settlemire.......the new Camaro has brought me to my knees with it's beauty......" That's pretty powerful stuff.

I DO hope that when the car goes into production that you will like what you see -- or grow to love it. Keep in mind that the 70 Camaro and Firebird were extremely polarizing.......you loved it to death or you wanted to slit your wrists........but the 2nd gen went on to be the most popular Fcar of all time (thusfar.......)

Keep the faith, baby!
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by danno02SS
Try 1970. Since then the Camaro has been more sports car than pony. Each Generation Camaro (other than the 1st) was heavily influenced by the Corvette of the time.

Look at these side by side pics and tell me they don't share styling principles:
Camaro Corvette comparisons
They do but so does the 5th gen. Look at the rear 1/4 panels and tell me they dont look like they were just unbolted from a C6 from a side view. The tail lights have the afterburner 1970/68 Camaro but also look similar to C4 to me. The back window comes to somewhat of a point somewhat like a 63 split window vette. The hood is reminsent of a 69 Camaro but is also formed to a C5 hood somewhat. Of course thats to my eye.

Originally Posted by Fbodfather
An observation: some say to me: "It should be more retro!" ..and I immediately ask them their age. It's always over 35 or 40 years of age. And that's fine.......the problem is that if we don't appeal to the 18-35 age group, we're in trouble.
well not always. I do like the car as I mentioned at Carlisle, but wish it was a little, just a little more retro 69 touch taller grille and other ques. Im 29. It wouldnt keep me out of a show room though.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

I like the car... but I hope it sure has "ENGINE ROOM!!!"

It would be nice if that hood on the Camaro forward like the Vette hoods do. Fenders in all.

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
They do but so does the 5th gen. Look at the rear 1/4 panels and tell me they dont look like they were just unbolted from a C6 from a side view. The tail lights have the afterburner 1970/68 Camaro but also look similar to C4 to me. The back window comes to somewhat of a point somewhat like a 63 split window vette. The hood is reminsent of a 69 Camaro but is also formed to a C5 hood somewhat. Of course thats to my eye.
Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
They do but so does the 5th gen. Look at the rear 1/4 panels and tell me they dont look like they were just unbolted from a C6 from a side view. The tail lights have the afterburner 1970/68 Camaro but also look similar to C4 to me. The back window comes to somewhat of a point somewhat like a 63 split window vette. The hood is reminsent of a 69 Camaro but is also formed to a C5 hood somewhat. Of course thats to my eye.
You are comparing the 5th gen with previous Corvette generations. The point I was trying to make is that the Camaro (gens 2-4) adopted styling from its contemporary Y-body sibling. The only similarities between the C6 and 5th gen are the rear 1/4 panels, as you mentioned, and the rear taillights to some extent. The 1-1 correlation that I liked between Camaro and Corvette is no longer there for me with the 5th gen.

I could be convinced into buying one however if the top model ran the numbers: 4.5,12.8,0.93,67.5.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by danno02SS
Try 1970. Since then the Camaro has been more sports car than pony. Each Generation Camaro (other than the 1st) was heavily influenced by the Corvette of the time.

Look at these side by side pics and tell me they don't share styling principles:
Camaro Corvette comparisons
I never realized just how similar they were until seeing those.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by danno02SS
. I could be convinced into buying one however if the top model ran the numbers: 4.5,12.8,0.93,67.5.
I'm guessing: 4.5=0-60, 12.8=1/4 mile, 0.93=skid pad?

I'm clueless on 67.5.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
I'm clueless on 67.5.
Lane change or slalom mph?
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Re: I'm I the only one that don't like the new camaro looks?

Originally Posted by danno02SS
Try 1970. Since then the Camaro has been more sports car than pony. Each Generation Camaro (other than the 1st) was heavily influenced by the Corvette of the time.

Look at these side by side pics and tell me they don't share styling principles:
Camaro Corvette comparisons
Ok sorry. We're talking about two different things here. "Styling" yes. But poor man's Corvette for me is more evocative of fourth gen because the ride height, seating position, visibility, etc. Were all a lot more in line with Corvette or another pure sports car. In the previous gens you got styling cues but still had a fairly upright passenger car feel.

As much as I like the C6 styling I dont think it would really transplant to a new Camaro anyway, it was an evolution of the C5 which was kinda slab sidded, so there isn't all that much to mine.



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