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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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If it fails, what will GM do?

I was just wondering if the new camaro fails (doubt it) what will GM do? Will they go back to the drawing boards or just give up on the camaro forever? What do you guys think?

Remember the challenger will be out....
the stang might have a facelift....
gass prices may be way too high...
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 67speeda
I was just wondering if the new camaro fails (doubt it) what will GM do? Will they go back to the drawing boards or just give up on the camaro forever? What do you guys think?

Remember the challenger will be out....
the stang might have a facelift....
gass prices may be way too high...
Oh come on...Gas is cheap in Jersey. Stay positive, it will not fail...it will not fail. If it gets the gas mileage they claimed when first announced, it will be a selling point...better than most SUV's.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Way too high for what? Everyones got to drive something. The new Camaro will have better mileage than either of my current rides.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 67speeda
I was just wondering if the new camaro fails (doubt it) what will GM do? Will they go back to the drawing boards or just give up on the camaro forever? What do you guys think?

Remember the challenger will be out....
the stang might have a facelift....
gass prices may be way too high...
Does it really matter 'what GM will do"? The car will be dead, and it's not likely to go back to any drawing board since GM is defying logic in making the car in the 1st place.

The car isn't going to fail as long as it stays close to the concept, which got a roaring response from press, public, and other industry people (I was there at the unveiling along with alot of other people here). Judging how the car was recieved, and looking at how the Mustang is Ford's only bright spot save maybe the Fusion, Camaro seems to be the closest thing to a sure thing since the 2005 Stang was shown.

As for the concerns you pointed out:

Challenger will be out, but it will be more of a somewhat large, fully equpted coupe like the GTO or a Monte Carlo SS.

Mustang WILL have a facelift. It will also have new interior and new engines with significantly more horsepower as well.

As for gas prices, where's the problem? Are people still buying SUVs and trucks more often than cars? You probally didn't notice but GTOs, Corvettes, Vipers, GTs, 300Cs, and Dodge Charger Hemis (not to mention Mustangs) are selling even better than last year....
... despite a 17% drop in the entire new car market for July...
... despite the lack of last year's firesales...
... despite having big performance engines...
... and... despite higher fuel prices.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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forget the gass prices then...

if for some reason it doesn't sell enough, do you think they will go back to the drawing boards or give up on the camaro....
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Oh come on...Gas is cheap in Jersey. Stay positive, it will not fail...it will not fail. If it gets the gas mileage they claimed when first announced, it will be a selling point...better than most SUV's.
better than most? the 4th gen can do better than all, so the 5th gen had better be able to do better than most
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by POWERFREAK
Oh come on...Gas is cheap in Jersey. Stay positive, it will not fail...it will not fail. If it gets the gas mileage they claimed when first announced, it will be a selling point...better than most SUV's.
I'm not sure 'cheap' is quite the right word. LOL

But it's definitly less than many other areas of the US.

$2.84 for Regular was the cheapest I saw today. I filled my tank at the same place for $2.86 yesterday.
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:53 PM
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I'm not sure 'cheap' is quite the right word. LOL

But it's definitly less than many other areas of the US.

$2.84 for Regular was the cheapest I saw today. I filled my tank at the same place for $2.86 yesterday.
same in central

315 i think for 93
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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It's $3.25 by Milwaukee for 87.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Mustangs still seem a little behind on MPG, but they still sell. The GTO actually gets pretty bad mileage, but is not a "failure" despite the fact that it didn't sell well. I can't think of a Camaro that has ever failed the car buying community, they won't start now.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Man, this is turning into a gas price thread pretty quickly.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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could care less about gas prices. so long as im enjoying what i drive. money is not a issue here. i will have one!
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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E85 Camaro! Do it GM... that'd be one way to get me out of the GTO and into a 5th gen.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EllwynX
I'm not sure 'cheap' is quite the right word. LOL

But it's definitly less than many other areas of the US.

$2.84 for Regular was the cheapest I saw today. I filled my tank at the same place for $2.86 yesterday.
OK...less friggin ridiculously expensive...how's that? It's $3.33 for regular in NY.
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Guys, all this talk and worry over gas prices is really useless, Our beloved muscle cars aren't going to be the first to get the axe with rising gas prices. By comparison (and this was the same way back in the 70's) Muscle cars get much better gas mileage than a Ford F250 pickup or Chevy Tahoe. Chevy has already responded to the need for better fuel economy with the tahoe now getting the DOD. I would suspect that if we were in any kind of major gas chrisis where gas was going to sky rocket, that none of the car companies would be looking to produce SUV's or trucks next year.

LS1's got consistant 29 MPG stock, I suspect that with DOD in the new car we will be seeing atleast that if not more. I don't know about you but I don't see the Camaro failing in this aspect when you consider that the Infinity G35 and the Nissan Z both get 18 in the city and 26 on the hwy...Maxima is no better. Hell when I buy my new Camaro it will get better mileage than my current 1995 Maxima or my friends 4cylinder accord.

This car has a very bright future, it has the capability of being E85 flexible, will have DOD, and will be much more aestheticly pleaseing than the mustang..which I might add only gets 17 and 24mpg on a good day.

The looks are there, the technology is there, and the customers are there...all we need are some cars with keys and this thing will start moving like a barefoot child across hot aspahalt.

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