There is a rumor on gminsidenews.com that 2009 NAIAS may be the stage at which a Hydrogen Camaro Concept debuts...what do you guys think?

Would you buy a Hydrogen Camaro if the performance was right?
What kind of performance would it need to produce to be "worthy" of the Camaro name?

 

I think they should make a camaro that runs on the blood of tree huggin' liberal hippies!

 

The last time Hydrogen was used as a means for transportation....



Seriously though, I am not opposed to an alternative fuel. I am realistic and understand that the oil supply isn't going to last forever. As long at the alternative fuel offers the same performance benefits as Gasoline and is safe to have in a car.

With that said, I don't think Hydrogen is our best alternative. The tanks are big and bulky and if I remember right, hydrogen only has about 1/4 the energy as gasoline and diesel.

I think the best alternative is Bio diesel. It can already be used as a direct substitute to diesel on all newer engines with little to no modification and it has a HIGHER energy potential than does regular diesel and gasoline.

IMO hydrogen is still decades away from becoming a viable alternative.

 

I think you should be able to mod it. If it come with 350 hp and you can't mod it what good is it? Can you mix hydrogen and Nos?

 

Hydrogen didnt start that fire. When the ropes hit the ground in that electrical storm for the US Navy guys to grab it grounded. Static electricity arcing from the frame to the heat shield caught the heat shield on fire. One of the things the heat shield was made up was aluminum oxide. It was close to rocket fuel. A NASA scientist figured it out, and also that the ***** knew it and covered it up for insurance purposes.

And to answer the question, no.

 

Surely a 350hp, non-modable, and incredibly fuel efficient Hydrogen Camaro is more worthy of the Camaro name than say an Iron Duke Camaro or a 4th gen with the 3.4?

I don't think that I'd want a high performance Hydrogen Camaro, but if it were to supplant the 6 cylinder version then more power to GM

 

I understand that, it was a joke. I edited my response to include a real answer to the question.

 

If you look at some of the stuff the Germans are doing I think a diesel/bio-diesel car would work.

What's not to like about Audi's 700bhp V12 diesel?

 

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/index.html

 

lol, what a scam!

 

350 HP from a hydrogen powered engine in a small passenger car is currently a pipe dream. With a 5000 ft/sec flame front, and significantly less energy per pound than gasoline, it takes forced induction to get power levels that approach just 75% of their naturally aspirated gas powered relatives. Hydrogen has a nasty habit of creating a super-hot combustion event, especially when you run it at stoichiometric and the result is a lot of NOX. Therefore you need to run a hydrogen powered i.c. engine at either very lean mixtures, or very rich mixtures. The result is lean-burn for cruising (with very little available power), or rich-burn for power (with very little available fuel reserve).

You have to store hydrogen in one of two storage systems: Either in a highly pressurized fuel tank with PSI ranging from 3000 to 5000 PSI, or else in liquid form, where the fuel temperature is -265 degrees F or so. Both fuel storage systems present drawbacks: Highly pressurized systems are bulky and hard to recharge: You can't just pump and dump like you can with gasoline. Low-temperature systems also present their own technical challenges, because the fuel must be allowed to evaporate in order to maintain its liquid form. Thus, low-temp delivery systems can boil off their entire liquid contents over the course of just a week. Fuel efficiency is, therefore, a matter of not only how far you drive, but how long you let your car sit in the parking lot between drives.

Hydrogen power may make sense in some transportation applications, but not others: A public transportation vehicle, such as a police car, taxi, bus, or shuttle could certainly take advantage of hydrogen because they require moderate amounts of performance and have long duty cycles where the engines are nearly always running. However, currently I do not think it makes sense to attempt to use Hydrogen as a fuel choice in a car that will see only occasional use.

 

I'd rather see a production ready Volt.

 

*Stands and applauds.*
I can name a few I'd like to squeeze for my next fill up. Kerry, Hillary, Gore, Murtha, for starters. It would serve two purposes. I'd have fuel, and more importantly, it would make the world a better place.

 

Hydrogen is a ruse.

 

Actually I heard Dr Emmett Brown was seen lurking around the Holden engineering complex... something about a flux capacitor.



There may be a future use for hydrogen... but it's a long way off.