How Accurate is Leftlane News?
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How Accurate is Leftlane News?
If you’re a Camaro fan, you might want to look away. This one is gonna sting a little — or a lot. Put simply, there will be no Z28 Camaro. That’s right: the program has been given the axe.
Rumors started making the rounds on Tuesday of this week about the uber-Camaro’s demise. After doing some checking around with very well placed sources, we’re afraid those initial rumblings are true.
The Z/28 was set to feature the fire-breathing LS8 motor. A 6.2L, small block V8 with a roots-style supercharger that was supposed to be good for 500 to 550 horsepower. With the Z28 put out to pasture, the SS model will now be the top dog. In the Camaro Super Sport’s engine cradle, you’ll find the LS3 V8 rated somewhere in the 400 to 450 hp neighborhood.
Normally this is where we’d speculate on the reason for this move by GM, though, do we even have to say it?
http://www.leftlanenews.com/camaro-w...8-is-dead.html
Rumors started making the rounds on Tuesday of this week about the uber-Camaro’s demise. After doing some checking around with very well placed sources, we’re afraid those initial rumblings are true.
The Z/28 was set to feature the fire-breathing LS8 motor. A 6.2L, small block V8 with a roots-style supercharger that was supposed to be good for 500 to 550 horsepower. With the Z28 put out to pasture, the SS model will now be the top dog. In the Camaro Super Sport’s engine cradle, you’ll find the LS3 V8 rated somewhere in the 400 to 450 hp neighborhood.
Normally this is where we’d speculate on the reason for this move by GM, though, do we even have to say it?
http://www.leftlanenews.com/camaro-w...8-is-dead.html
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"...........Articles like this really put me up the wall -- past the pictures -- and on to the ceiling.
The Camaro is not Dead.
(......in my opinion, there are some 'enthusiasts' that hope it does die -- and that confounds me........not to mention giving a dangerous boost to my blood pressure......)
I don't know how these things get life -- but let me assure EVERYONE -- that every car and truck program out there is on the table right now -- and I think I can safely say that this is the case at the other two American manufacturers -- all one has to do is to look at what's happening to new vehicle sales -- coupled with the housing meltdown -- the budget deficit -- the elections -- the Dow Jones Industrials down by a breathtaking amount -- and of course, high energy costs that are forcing the price of everything upward................
Let us take a quick walk down memory lane - shall we?
The year is 1979 -- interest rates are double digit -- energy costs and inflation are spiraling out of control.......people are "upside down" on their loans for pickups and large cars................
#7
If there continues to be a viable business case for a vehicle, there is every reason to believe there WILL be a vehicle. This isn't just true for a Z/28 but for any vehicle.
Part of any car manufacturer's determination to offer a car is interest on the dealership side of the business.
Another huge factor is the attitude and confidence of the potential buyers. Basic importance is less about what people desire and more about what they will BUY.
All that being said, I believe there IS a real buying market for an over the top performance Camaro model.
Part of any car manufacturer's determination to offer a car is interest on the dealership side of the business.
Another huge factor is the attitude and confidence of the potential buyers. Basic importance is less about what people desire and more about what they will BUY.
All that being said, I believe there IS a real buying market for an over the top performance Camaro model.
Last edited by 1fastdog; 07-15-2008 at 10:13 AM.
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Considering the how bad the inflation was from 77 to 81 GM did not have any problem selling camaros. Granted the Z28 was not much of a car then it still sold well.
1977
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 131,717
Z28 14,349
Type LT 72,787
RS 17,026
TOTALS = 218,853
1978
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 134,491
Z28 54,907
Type LT 65,635
Type LT/RS 5,696
RS 11,902
TOTALS = 272,631
1979
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 111,357
Z28 84,877
Berlinetta 67,236
RS 19,101
TOTALS = 282,571
1980
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 68,174
Z28 45,137
Berlinetta 26,679
RS 12,015
TOTALS = 152,005
1981
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 62,614
Coupe Z28 20,253
Berlinetta 43,272
TOTALS = 126,139
1977
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 131,717
Z28 14,349
Type LT 72,787
RS 17,026
TOTALS = 218,853
1978
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 134,491
Z28 54,907
Type LT 65,635
Type LT/RS 5,696
RS 11,902
TOTALS = 272,631
1979
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 111,357
Z28 84,877
Berlinetta 67,236
RS 19,101
TOTALS = 282,571
1980
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 68,174
Z28 45,137
Berlinetta 26,679
RS 12,015
TOTALS = 152,005
1981
Style Production Numbers
Coupe 62,614
Coupe Z28 20,253
Berlinetta 43,272
TOTALS = 126,139
#10
To start, I'm a worry-wart but won't stoop to worrying much unless GM or 'Father says something. I am looking forward to a supercharged Z28 in the next couple years, if not sooner. We've seen an SS running around so it seems this model is for sure. If there is a Camaro model that I think GM would keep, I would say it is Z28 because that is immediately recognizable as a Camaro. Now, if a Z28 is revealed at Indy, and not the SS, then I'd be a little worried...
#12
Source?
The Z28 can be sold at a premium over the other models, which means GM makes more money off the cars. Maybe they don't plan on selling as many, but there is no reason not to sell it.
The Camaro isn't on the radar of the green freaks, they are worried about killing SUVs and improving small cars. They haven't gotten around to harassing enthusiasts yet. Killing the Z over possible bad press is a stretch. Read a Z06 or ZR1 review, they don't spend more than 1 sentence on the gas mileage, and if they mention emmisions its no more than a passing joke. 20,000 Zs with bad mileage isn't worth argueing over when compared with the millions SVUs out there.
The Z28 can be sold at a premium over the other models, which means GM makes more money off the cars. Maybe they don't plan on selling as many, but there is no reason not to sell it.
The Camaro isn't on the radar of the green freaks, they are worried about killing SUVs and improving small cars. They haven't gotten around to harassing enthusiasts yet. Killing the Z over possible bad press is a stretch. Read a Z06 or ZR1 review, they don't spend more than 1 sentence on the gas mileage, and if they mention emmisions its no more than a passing joke. 20,000 Zs with bad mileage isn't worth argueing over when compared with the millions SVUs out there.
#13
With all the great info on this site and some other boards related to the 5th Gen you don't need to look any further.
I think that some mags and other info sites look here first to get that info personally.
I think that some mags and other info sites look here first to get that info personally.
#14
It was always going to be at least 18 months behind the initial release. I don't know where you got this "back burner" crap, but I for one have always anticipated that the Z28 would be available in the Fall of 2010 as a 2011MY vehicle.
While I'd like to know ASAP the details of the Z28 (options, MSRP), I realize that GM won't release it too early because they'd be afraid of it hurting SS sales and they don't want to give the competition any time to react.
While I'd like to know ASAP the details of the Z28 (options, MSRP), I realize that GM won't release it too early because they'd be afraid of it hurting SS sales and they don't want to give the competition any time to react.