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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by merlinsteele
5thgen69camaro: Thanks for your input; I think your educated logic and figuring there may be about right. I sure hope so, anyway!
No problem!

Originally Posted by guionM
Everyone who went to the unveiling had a chance to virturally stick their head inside the car, let alone touch it (as long as you didn't have metal or anything that would scratch the paint).

I'm sure anyone who's invited by Scott to stop by while he's getting the Chevy display set up at your local auto show (and has no problems getting into the place it's being shown at) will most likely have the same chance, and maybe even given a quick tour of other GM displays (if he's not too busy reaming someone setting up Chevy's display area. ).



I don't see any visibility problems at all (especially compared to the 2-4th gen). The guages at the knee were a big issue. I'm curous how the passenger air bag is going to reach without a dash redesign.

The back looks roomy. Not as roomy as the current GTO in legroom, but better visually than Mustang. Pretty wide too. The headrests as shown are non starters. The concept has them angled back as has been done for years. New standards say they must touch your head, so production ones will be angled forwards.. alot.
I like alot of what you say here. Especially the rear room which I was hoping for, and head rest that actually touches your head, which I wish had been done along time ago but is a nice surprise. Like the Visibility as well. I forgot to mention those 1/4 windows give the rear ocupants some windows to see out of. No where near what full rear windows do but some none the less.

What does non starters mean
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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I don't look out the back anymore. I just pick a spot up ahead and go get it. It is sort of a point and click interface.
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

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Irregardless if whether you 'care' about the other cars I mentioned, I only used them as an example to show that it's _very_ common not to see the hood.

Actually, your 20mpg Z06/Aveo statemet is honestly VERY close to reality.

I only average 23MPG on my Aveo. Very disappointing.
It's an overall perception, not whether you see the hood or not ... perhaps it has to do with how far in front of the vehicle you see the road? We were shopping for my wife ... she made that comment about the the HHR ... yet she liked the Vibe ... and was surprised when I pointed out to her she couldn't see the hood in it either. Regardless, she refuses to drive the Camaro in the city.
Old Mar 24, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

I really don't worry too much about seeing the front of the hood, don't see it as that much of an issue, but that's me. I'm more concerned about being able to see around me, and feel like I can make quick decisions without having to strain too much. Just gett'in old, I guess!
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by EllwynX
Irregardless if whether you 'care' about the other cars I mentioned, I only used them as an example to show that it's _very_ common not to see the hood.

Actually, your 20mpg Z06/Aveo statemet is honestly VERY close to reality.

I only average 23MPG on my Aveo. Very disappointing.
Id be dissapointed too. But I thought youre complaint was that people complain about the long front end over hang that is hard to see from a Camaro from drivers seat, and complain about it on a Camaro forum in hopes that it will not be repeated, as opposed to other cars that may have the same issue. That Camaro enthusiast arent worried about making non Camaro cars better, much less cars they have no interest in, no matter how common they may be. Hows that for a runnon sentence? Even if those vehicles it is not as much of an issue, and I dont know many vehicles with that over hang outside of dodge vans. Neons hood doesnt look that long btw.

Bottom line is its harder to judge both front and back, than other cars wheter you can see the end of the hood or not

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by poSSum
It's an overall perception, not whether you see the hood or not ... perhaps it has to do with how far in front of the vehicle you see the road? We were shopping for my wife ... she made that comment about the the HHR ... yet she liked the Vibe ... and was surprised when I pointed out to her she couldn't see the hood in it either. Regardless, she refuses to drive the Camaro in the city.
It has everything to do with your perception of where the end of the vehicle is regaurdles of whether you can see the end of the hood or not. Long front overhangs also having a different issue of scraping inclines into parking lots.

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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by guionM
The back looks roomy. Not as roomy as the current GTO in legroom, but better visually than Mustang. Pretty wide too.
Which car were you looking at? I have pictures of the backseats at the unveil. The rear seat bottoms are actually touching the rear of the front seats. What worries me is how they'll keep the roofline as they try and add legroom...
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

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What worries me is how they'll keep the roofline as they try and add legroom...
Doubt theyll be adding rear legroom
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Doubt theyll be adding rear legroom
I hope not...that is not if they have to change that beautiful roofline.
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by 5thgen69camaro
Id be dissapointed too. But I thought youre complaint was that people complain about the long front end over hang that is hard to see from a Camaro from drivers seat, and complain about it on a Camaro forum in hopes that it will not be repeated, as opposed to other cars that may have the same issue. That Camaro enthusiast arent worried about making non Camaro cars better, much less cars they have no interest in, no matter how common they may be. Hows that for a runnon sentence? Even if those vehicles it is not as much of an issue, and I dont know many vehicles with that over hang outside of dodge vans. Neons hood doesnt look that long btw.

Bottom line is its harder to judge both front and back, than other cars wheter you can see the end of the hood or not
No, I brought up the lack of hood view on other cars because the Camaro owners come across as it being a shocking and rare thing that you couldn't see the 4th Gen's hood. I was just saying it's commonplace.

But some care about one thing others another. Not seeing my hood in a total non-issue to me.
Old Mar 25, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by EllwynX
No, I brought up the lack of hood view on other cars because the Camaro owners come across as it being a shocking and rare thing that you couldn't see the 4th Gen's hood. I was just saying it's commonplace.

But some care about one thing others another. Not seeing my hood in a total non-issue to me.
The issue has more to do with being able to judge where the outer perimiters are on a car and I cant always do that in 4th gen. Im always guessing where the front and rear bumpers are as opposed to knowing as in other cars. Sounds like you got better judging it than I, but I still think that is a HUGE downside to the car.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

Originally Posted by ssheets
Which car were you looking at? I have pictures of the backseats at the unveil. The rear seat bottoms are actually touching the rear of the front seats.
Thats what they looked like when I saw the concept too. But the front seats were also all the way back it looked like, probably to give a clear view of the interior.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Re: Has very many people sat in the concept?

I saw the car today at the New YOrk Auto Show. The car was on a spinning platform that was surrounded by metal rails (6 feet away from the platform, so oyu couldn't get near it). I liked the car. I thought it looked good, but I did not like the guages by the shifter. I have a friend who told me that when the decided to build the Camaro, that it will be different, becuase it won't meet gov't crash test ratings. I hope that they make it light though, so it'll move (unlike the new Charger)

I also saw the Dodge Challenger concept, which I also liked. They stuck close to the original with that. I'll have pictures of the autoshow up if anyone wants to see, just lemme know.
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