"Forced Induction, the replacement for displacement".

 

<------Slightly disappointed But understandable.

 

Talk about a torqueless wonder! 4000 RPMs in 6th gear at just 80 MPH?

 

So there's still hope for the supercharged 6.2L?

 

You have to give this Meyers guy a break you know? He's trying to sell some crate engines. So he exaggerated a little. The LS7 is a great powerplant and in a 4th gen it is clearly brutal. It's well known that newer powerplants are in the works though, and not a second too soon either. The competition is readying some serious attackers. Even Toyota seems set to jump into the super musclecar market.

 

"THE" reason I have not purchased a GT500 to drive while waiting for the Camaro to come out is, I have absolutely NOOOOO interest in buying and driving a 3,940 pound muscle car. I understand 4,000 pounds for a SUV, but a pony car? Rediculous. Let the Caddy CTS-V be the 4,000 pound fun car.....That is understandable because it is a luxury car. If the Camaro hits near that weight, I will not be buying one. I wait and hope for the best....

 

I absolutely agree. There is no excuse for Camaro to be more than 3500lbs. The Mustang is bigger and heavier than it ever needed to be. I'm concerned that GM put an emphasis on a large car Impala-style chassis when the large vehicle market is about to go bust. The best way to make a vehicle lighter is to make it smaller. Cadillac is the only brand where a large car is viable.

There are too many options out there for anyone to buy a 3900lb muscle car. However, I have seen the new Challenger at the factory and I believe it will be lighter than anyone is letting on. I hope the 5th gen Camaro will be a decent weight.

 

What's your best guess on weight? I've heard unsubstantiated rumors that it could be as low as 3,800 lbs.

 

I'm guessing 3500-3600 for the coupe. If it's more I won't buy. I could see 3800lb for the convertible. GM has had plenty of warning about getting off the big car heroine. I'm already appalled at the 110 inch wheelbase. All I need to hear is the thing is 3800lbs.

 

No, I was referring to the Challenger.

BTW, expect the Camaro's wheelbase to grow compard to the concept.

 

who cares about the wheelbase.. the car itself is actually smaller than a 4th gen

 

When you say actually FS, that's not much of an accomplishment. The 4th gen is longer than most SUV's, including the H1

 

It's actually only 4" shorter than the Trans Am, and 7" narrower. That is not much of a difference, so we're talking about another full size car here, not a compact, which the original Camaro started out as.

Relative to the current market the same complaints may apply to the new Camaro as the 4th gen - it's nicely styled, but too big to buy.

 

Regarding the Camaro, that's my concern as well. All of this rigamarole and hiatus business - and in the end - after all of these years, we're going to end up with a car which is more of an intermediate rather than ponycar in size.

 

What you have to remember is that a lot of the front overhang on the 4th gen was lightweight plastic. It only had a 101" wheelbase. The longer the wheelbase, the more a body and/or frame will flex, so the more strength you have to add to maintain stiffness.

Given that the modern standards for stiffness are much higher than the 4th gen and the wheelbase is much longer .......