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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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Camaro poised for Australia

Camaro poised for Australia

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Chevrolet says right-hand-drive is coming, Holden says 'we'll take it'

The iconic Chevrolet Camaro muscle car will finally be built in right-hand-drive, opening the door to its export to Australia as a replacement for the Holden Monaro, possibly as soon as 2011.

The vice chairman of General Motors Bob Lutz told a group of journalists at the Detroit motor show earlier today that a right-hand-drive version of the car is coming.

When answering a question from the Carsales Network about the possibility of desirable American cars such as the full size pick-ups and the Corvette being available in right-hand-drive, Bob Lutz said: "With the currency and so on we now have a golden opportunity to export from the United States, and with the excellence of the product we really should be pushing exports.

"I think you can pretty much count on a right-hand-drive Camaro.

"The Camaro at some point will be factory right-hand-drive. That is what we are currently looking at ... with a great deal of focus, built in the plant in Canada and shipped to right-hand-drive markets from Canada.

"Most of the parts are there. All we have to do really is reverse the instrument panel. All of the right hand drive bits are a given because of the Holden architecture."

In the same frank interview, Bob Lutz added to the speculation that the Commodore could be sold in America as a Chevrolet, describing it as a "four-door Corvette". This follows comments from other senior GM executives in recent days, who have said the Commodore "could make a pretty good Chevrolet".

Holden designed and engineered the Camaro in Australia on behalf of Chevrolet because it shares its core underpinnings with the Commodore, but the muscle car is made in Canada.

The boss of Holden, Alan Batey, who was in the same briefing and seemed surprised by the early announcement, told a group of Australian journalists afterwards: "I want the car as quickly as they can get it to me but [Chevrolet] have got some work to do to make it happen.

"We've had our hand up for this car since we did the engineering work in Australia. It now depends on how quickly we can get it. We've always wanted it. We'll take it, but it depends on how soon it becomes available."

The Camaro is a sell-out success in the US where it has been on sale for a year and has a six month waiting list.

But the hope is that demand in North America will plateau in 2011 and allow enough spare production capacity to build a small number of right-hand-drive cars for Australia and other export markets.

"I don't think it's going to happen in 2010 because of the demand in the US, but beyond that, who knows?" said Batey.

"We don't have a launch date, but can it happen fast? Yes it can. It all depends on how soon it can be made available in right-hand-drive. The engineering configuration is done it's just a matter of releasing the parts and finding the capacity to build it.

"If [Chevrolet] comes to us in three years, it may be too late. I can do good volumes today, so we need to know sooner rather than later."

Holden expects the Camaro would be sold at a price premium and be more expensive than the Monaro, which cost about $60,000.

The Camaro would likely be priced closer to $75,000, which would make it the most expensive car in the Holden catalogue -- but that figure is barely half the price of privately imported and converted versions of the Camaro.

The Camaro would likely wear a Chevrolet badge and be sold through selected Holden dealers, although these details are yet to be confirmed.

Holden believes the Camaro would be a "niche, icon" car and sell in lower numbers than the Monaro because of its premium price.

HSV could also do a version of the Camaro with more power, larger, six-piston brakes, a retuned exhaust and magnetically controlled suspension that it uses on its flagship GTS model and sell it as a "HSV enhanced" edition, but Holden's performance car division is yet to conduct any work on the car.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2010...ustralia-17944
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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$75,000 for a camaro!?

what is that in U.S. dollars? i sure as hell wouldn't pay that much
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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$75,000 for a camaro!?

what is that in U.S. dollars? i sure as hell wouldn't pay that much
No that's $AUS.

I know you are shocked but it's what we are prepared to pay for cars here in Australia. Currency conversions DO NOT really play a part in it.

Conversely, Americans don't know how good they have it over there in regards to cheap cars. It's the old American way... value/quality for the masses.

AUD = 0.9201 USD
AUD = 0.9573 CAD

Since Camaro will be imported from Canada, the CAD is less favorable for our cause as there is no FTA between Australia and Canada!

Oh well, that's the price we pay here for our cars... nothing I can do about that but it's better than the $150K one importer here is asking for one.

PS: Levi jeans here cost $AU110/pair yet they are only $US30/pair there.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Too expensive, if it was a reasonable price I would consider it.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Too expensive.
I agree. It's still too expensive at $75K. At that price, it's protecting HSV's offerings.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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It's the least we can do for all the holden cars sent over here.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Wow, you could likely buy one from America and have it shipped over and save a boatload of money.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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Wow, you could likely buy one from America and have it shipped over and save a boatload of money.
Except it would be LHD and the Aus model will be RHD.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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$75,000 Aus = $69,143 USD

This time last year $75,000 Aus would have been ~$50,000 USD

You can see why a weak dollar is good for US exports.
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They already have a G8 GT....

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/Co...pecial-Edition

Originally Posted by Jalopnik
Last fall, a badgeless version of the Pontiac G8 sedan, complete with twin-port grille, was released for limited sale in Australia. The Aussies liked it so much that it's now an ordinary production model. Vegemite excitement, anyone?

Stick with us here, because the details are everything: Late last year, Australian carmaker and GM property Holden began selling a variant of the Pontiac G8. The car in question was a limited-edition version of the high-performance Commodore SS-V, one sold as a Holden but fitted with G8 bodywork. The model was intended to be a quick way to clear out Pontiac parts inventory, but sales surpassed expectations, and it's now a regular production model. If that weren't enough, Australian dealers are reportedly ordering Pontiac badges and trim for enthusiastic customers. So a Pontiac that was once a Holden is now a Holden that may be a Pontiac again. Even if Pontiac is dead.

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Funny think is, if I ever got a G8, I'd have rebadged it with the Holden bodywork!
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Except it would be LHD and the Aus model will be RHD.
Oh well. Is there something in Australia prohibiting LHD cars from being driven on the streets? If it saved me ten grand on the car I really wanted, I'd drive on the other side of the car.
Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SSbaby
No that's $AUS.

I know you are shocked but it's what we are prepared to pay for cars here in Australia. Currency conversions DO NOT really play a part in it.

Conversely, Americans don't know how good they have it over there in regards to cheap cars. It's the old American way... value/quality for the masses.

AUD = 0.9201 USD
AUD = 0.9573 CAD

Since Camaro will be imported from Canada, the CAD is less favorable for our cause as there is no FTA between Australia and Canada!

Oh well, that's the price we pay here for our cars... nothing I can do about that but it's better than the $150K one importer here is asking for one.

PS: Levi jeans here cost $AU110/pair yet they are only $US30/pair there.
wow... Does it matter that GM is a US company? Does the US have FTA with Austrailia? You used Levi's as an example so I assume not.
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff Chadwick
They already have a G8 GT....

http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/Co...pecial-Edition





Funny think is, if I ever got a G8, I'd have rebadged it with the Holden bodywork!
They already have some Holden vehicles better than the G8 GT, take a look at the HSV ClubSport GXP (also sold in the UK as the Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst Edition) which is a four door 6.2L LSA engine and the Ute Maloo which is an LS3 version of the Ute. Top gear had an awesome segment where they drove both of them (they drove the Vauxhall VXR8 and the Ute Maloo).
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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As good as the HSVs are, they are no Camaro.

Coupe vs Sedan: There is something really extraordinarily charming about driving a sexy coupe like a Camaro over a performance sedan (itself, based on a mundane Commodore VE) like a HSV, IMO.
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SSbaby
As good as the HSVs are, they are no Camaro.

Coupe vs Sedan: There is something really extraordinarily charming about driving a sexy coupe like a Camaro over a performance sedan (itself, based on a mundane Commodore VE) like a HSV, IMO.

Though I prefer a coupe to a sedan, watching that VXR8 Sedan being flogged on Top Gear sure made it look like a lot of fun (as well as the Ute Maloo)!!
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