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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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400-plus-hp, 6.0-liter V-8 or a 300-plus-hp,3.6-liter V-6

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...10-camaro.html

2010 Chevrolet Camaro Ready in a Year

For months, Chevrolet has hinted that the remake of the Camaro sport coupe would arrive in January of next year as a 2009 model, but Chevy general manager Ed Peper says, nope, it will go into production in February of next year and won’t be in showrooms until March 2009 — as a 2010 model.

Rather than a January intro and a short 2009 model run before switching to a 2010 designation in the fall, the Camaro will have a long run as a 2010 model before switching to a 2011 designation in the fall of 2010.

Peper said only the coupe will be offered for the first nine months of the model’s life, with a choice of a 400-plus-hp, 6.0-liter V-8 or a 300-plus-hp, 3.6-liter V-6. He said mostly V-8s will be produced, for enthusiasts eager to get their hands on the first ones off the assembly line.

The convertible will be added at the end of 2009, also as a 2010 model.

To silence those who gripe about the debut of a new higher-performance sports coupe and soft-top convertible in the face of soaring gas prices, Peper pointed out that both engines will offer cylinder-deactivation technology to shut off either three or four cylinders when they aren’t needed, to conserve gas. No hybrid is in the works.

Peper said dealers will probably start taking orders for the Camaro later this summer, but he wouldn't give a specific date when consumers can ink a contract.

GM vice chairman Bob Lutz forecast Camaro sales will top 100,000 units a year. Peper agrees, but said Chevy can't reach those numbers until both the coupe and the convertible are available.

Peper also announced that in a matter of weeks Chevy will begin offering its midsize Malibu sedan with a 169-hp, 2.4 liter four-cylinder engine teamed with a six-speed automatic transmission. The sedan will be rated at 22/32 mpg city/highway, which is very close to the Malibu Hybrid’s 24/32 mpg.

The four-cylinder/six-speed Malibu will start at $26,245, which is about $4,000 more than the hybrid, because it willl be offered on the top-of-the-line LTZ trim level, which has the most standard equipment, while the hybrid is offered on the lower LT1 trim level.

At least now Chevy can say it offers a hybrid at a lower price than a gas engine car.
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001Firehawk
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Peper said dealers will probably start taking orders for the Camaro later this summer, but he wouldn't give a specific date when consumers can ink a contract.
this is what im looking foward to
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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That would certainly seem to be a somewhat official ruling out of the 350-375hp base V8 and the sub 300hp V6... Course it being a 6.0l is throwing me a bit, hopefully it was more like 6.0l +...

Peper said only the coupe will be offered for the first nine months of the model’s life, with a choice of a 400-plus-hp, 6.0-liter V-8 or a 300-plus-hp, 3.6-liter V-6. He said mostly V-8s will be produced, for enthusiasts eager to get their hands on the first ones off the assembly line.

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Old Mar 16, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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300hp v6 3.6 out of the caddy in the base model, hell yes. 300hp v6 camaro and a 300hp V8 gt mustang, muahahahahahahahhahaa

muahahahahha
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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300 HP V6? That would REALLY up the ante!

Good info - thanks!
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I've been telling people this for a while - making the DI'd 3.6 VVT the base engine not only will appeal to Camaro purists who don't want the extra insurance/maintenance/fuel of the V8, but expands and broadens the Camaro appeal to reach beyond GM customers. Now, those looking at the Nissan Altima 3.5 coupe, the Honda Accord EX V6 coupe, and BMW 1 series will have another car to add to their list.

I don't know if some of the die hard, Camaro and GM purists realize how much of an impact it will be for GM to offer a Camaro with DOHC and variable valve timing. This makes the Camaro not just a car for purist muscle car buffs, but folks who may not even have considered a GM product to begin with. That accronym of DOHC is a selling point in and of itself.

GM was very smart - dare I say brilliant to make this engine the base engine, and not the 3500, as was rumored last year.
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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I completely agree fastball! Every since I saw the screen shot of the V6 motor and compared it to the new CTS, I knew it had to be 300hp. The V6 wont get the best gas mileage (you dont buy a camaro for MPG), but like you said people will not be knocking it as "technology-less" like they often do with the push-rod motors. Low 14's out of a V6, hell yeah!!!

Ford is really gonna have to step it up with their redesign in 2011(could be earlier??).
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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400hp LS2?

No thanks

What happened to the tradition of simply dumping the current vette engine into the Camaro and claiming 50hp less?
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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400hp LS2?

No thanks
I'd have to think that (6.0) is a typo. The LS2 has been phased out. Perhaps it's a tuned-up version of the L76 but I can't really see that either....
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
I'd have to think that (6.0) is a typo. The LS2 has been phased out. Perhaps it's a tuned-up version of the L76 but I can't really see that either....
LS3 with AFM.
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
I'd have to think that (6.0) is a typo. The LS2 has been phased out. Perhaps it's a tuned-up version of the L76 but I can't really see that either....
As long as it's some version of the 6.2 making somewhere north of 450hp, I'd say bravo.

Remember, bone stock '08 vettes are dynoing 400RWHP. That's 470 at the crank.
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
As long as it's some version of the 6.2 making somewhere north of 450hp, I'd say bravo.
Please note Peper said "the first 9 months of production". What he is talking about is the "base" V8 motor. "400+" HP in this case is none-too-shabby. Wait a year for the Z28.
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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I thought we werent going to see the LS2 anymore? That rules out a 6 liter 400hp V8.
It will either be the LS3 from the G8 GXP, or a the L76 from the G8 GT under 400hp...or both?
Old Mar 16, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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I thought we werent going to see the LS2 anymore? That rules out a 6 liter 400hp V8.
hp and displacement aren't dependent on each other. Just because it's 400 and 6.0L doesn't mean it HAS to be the LS2.

For instance, the L76 can easily reach the 400hp mark with a tune for premium fuel. NOT saying that's what they did, but to point out that things can be done to existing engines that change them quite a bit.

Personally I pray we get some variant of the L76. That thing is a torque monster!!
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
That's 470 at the crank.
If you use a percentage as drivetrain loss. The LS3 was SAE certified at 430 and 436hp.



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