Light weight battery talk. Good reading and info inside.
Make sense out of this battery lingo for me!
http://www.stealth316.com/2-dynabatt.htm
Now, do these batteries look familiar? A Dynabatt (sold at thunderracing.com) and Reactor (seen in summit). All re-labeled and sold at 2-3 times the price.
Dynabatt
Reactor
stats on this battery
Would 180 Amps be too much for starting our motors?
These batteries are very light, but are they suitable for a daily driver?
Now, do these batteries look familiar? A Dynabatt (sold at thunderracing.com) and Reactor (seen in summit). All re-labeled and sold at 2-3 times the price.
Dynabatt
Reactor
stats on this battery
Would 180 Amps be too much for starting our motors?
These batteries are very light, but are they suitable for a daily driver?
Last edited by Rob94hawk; Mar 6, 2003 at 09:37 PM.
Interesting post.
I wonder how usefull a Genisis or Odesey battery would be in a dialy driver in cold climates mounted in the truck. The Odesey looks like a good choice for that, and taking 45lbs off the front end of the car and placing 26lbs in the rear sounds like a good idea to me.
Bret
I wonder how usefull a Genisis or Odesey battery would be in a dialy driver in cold climates mounted in the truck. The Odesey looks like a good choice for that, and taking 45lbs off the front end of the car and placing 26lbs in the rear sounds like a good idea to me.
Bret
Re: Make sense out of this battery lingo for me!
Under normal street driving, lights on, radio, etc., how many amps do you need continually?
And how many amps do you need for the starter? The batcap 400 has 400 cold peak starting amps for 8 seconds. And at 5 pounds I guess you can use it for a weekend warrior type thing.
And how many amps do you need for the starter? The batcap 400 has 400 cold peak starting amps for 8 seconds. And at 5 pounds I guess you can use it for a weekend warrior type thing.
Last edited by Rob94hawk; Mar 7, 2003 at 10:23 AM.
This has been discussed a lot at ls1tech.com.. search "hawker" or "dynabatt" there and you will see. I think the consensus is that they are fine for daily driving just don't leave your stereo or bottle heater on with the car off.
I've got the Hawker Genesis (13.5 lbs)in my car. I've had it for about 8 months with no problems. Of course you won't sit listening to the radio long with the engine off and still expect it to crank.
Originally posted by Camaro SS
I've got the Hawker Genesis (13.5 lbs)in my car.
I've got the Hawker Genesis (13.5 lbs)in my car.
Well, the Hawker Genesis has gave up on me. It will not hold a charge for more than 48 hours. It has lasted 1.5 years. I called Hawker and spoke with them about the short life of the battery. They told me that the Genesis is not designed for automotive use. The Odyssey version is the one built for automotive use to withstand heat and vibration. I just got the Odyssey version in today. It is the exact same size and weight as the Genesis 16. (13.5 lbs.). The only visual difference is that the Odyssey battery is red compared to black of the Genesis. Also, the Genesis only has a 12 month warranty. The Odyssey has a 36 month warranty when used in automotive applications. For the weight savings, this is a worthwhile mod. Of course you won't be able to run a big stereo or play your stereo with the engine off for extended periods. Up until this battery when bad this week, I've had no cranking on voltage problems whatsoever.
why not just use it for track use only? swap them the out when the time comes. I would not trust such a small battery to be used as a daily driver. No way would it work here in this cold weather we have been seeing in New England. at least its 15f now, instead of 0-5 plus the windsheild.
So is the odyssey good enough to start a hi compression (12:1) LT1 mounted in the back of the vehicle?
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1994 Firehawk#319 (slightly modified)
11.83@120.61
MODLIST
www.RobsHawk.com
Blown V6
2002 Trailblazer
www.SDFB.org
"Garp bit Bonky"
Rob, why would you want to put a battery like that all the way in the rear? There's really not enough weight for it to matter if it's in the front or rear of the car. It's so small that even if you wanted to fit something in that space you could probably make room for it and the battery under the hood. Plus you don't have a normal LT1 airbox so you have lots of extra room under the hood.
I guess it might be possible to start the car with a little battery back there, but you would have to have really big wiring and make sure all the connections were terminated really well and in as few places as possible to reduce any resistance in the wiring. The required on/off switch wouldn't help either. I sure wouldn't want to rely on a car with the battery in the trunk and a battery that tiny. I think the bonus of a small battery like this is that you don't need to add all the extra weight (weigh 20ft of 1/0 cable if you get bored
) associated with moving the battery and you pull a lot of weight off the front of the car.
But.. when I did have the battery in the trunk of my car I used the smallest, cheapest battery available at walmart ($20) and it started the car fine though, even with some VERY questionable (read: it was pathetic) wiring from the previous owner of the car. I put the battery back up in the front of the car and don't plan on ever moving it again.
EDIT: The CCA on the hawker appears to be 280 CCA. I wouldn't put it in the back and expect it to start a 12:1 motor.. maybe my 9:1 monster but not yours.
Just buy one, try it and if it doesn't work I'll give you $50 for it.
I guess it might be possible to start the car with a little battery back there, but you would have to have really big wiring and make sure all the connections were terminated really well and in as few places as possible to reduce any resistance in the wiring. The required on/off switch wouldn't help either. I sure wouldn't want to rely on a car with the battery in the trunk and a battery that tiny. I think the bonus of a small battery like this is that you don't need to add all the extra weight (weigh 20ft of 1/0 cable if you get bored
) associated with moving the battery and you pull a lot of weight off the front of the car.But.. when I did have the battery in the trunk of my car I used the smallest, cheapest battery available at walmart ($20) and it started the car fine though, even with some VERY questionable (read: it was pathetic) wiring from the previous owner of the car. I put the battery back up in the front of the car and don't plan on ever moving it again.
EDIT: The CCA on the hawker appears to be 280 CCA. I wouldn't put it in the back and expect it to start a 12:1 motor.. maybe my 9:1 monster but not yours.
Just buy one, try it and if it doesn't work I'll give you $50 for it.
Last edited by aram; Jan 24, 2004 at 09:27 PM.
Originally posted by Rob(94Hawk#319)
So is the odyssey good enough to start a hi compression (12:1) LT1 mounted in the back of the vehicle?
the Hawker started mine. I just tested it at home and haven't tried it for a day of racing. I made sure it had a full charge and it cranked my car over great.
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So is the odyssey good enough to start a hi compression (12:1) LT1 mounted in the back of the vehicle?
the Hawker started mine. I just tested it at home and haven't tried it for a day of racing. I made sure it had a full charge and it cranked my car over great.
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