http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto...92.A10604.html

Kinda long...but doesn't sound good for Wagoner or GM...

 

 

"and HUMMER possibly sold off"

 

Here's hoping Rick shows he has ***** of steel and tells the board that Carlos doesn't have the "testicular fortitude" to run this ship!

 

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Selling HUMMER, Saab, and dismantling Buick now would IMHO be surefire recipes for more marketshare loss. Big mistake.

 

I don't know if getting rid of Wagoner is such a bad move. I particularly liked this quote:
If the guys on the board like Lutz's way of doing things, then I'm inclined to like the guys on the board. I think Lutz has the vision necessary to make GM a respected company.

 

Heres the part you left out....

 

Spending billions on litigation and dealer buyouts to shut down Buick and Saab sounds like a great way to jumpstart recovery.

I'll scream it until I'm hoarse....it's the product, stupid....and aligning yourself with Nissan (turnaround has lost steam due to stale product) and Renault of all companies for a "measily" 3 billion makes absolutely no sense to me. With the right product, GM should be able to net $3 billion annually quite easily, on its own....and from what we're hearing, that product is already on its way.

I hope to God the GM board is smarter than to cave in to the greed of an old coot looking to make a quick buck before he croaks.

 

I agree completely......:Sigh:.......this sucks....

 

I've been wondering.....

If Nissan/Renault were to want to buy up to 20% of GM stock, I WONDER who has a large chunk of stock they would be willing to part with if a nice profit were to be had.....

 

I find it funny that somebody thinks it would be a good idea for Steve Miller to be GM CEO. This is a dumb plan.

 

That last line actually makes the think of typical GM.

But from what we are being assured from those here who work for the General that isnt the case anymore.

I guess the real proof will be in the pudding...

 

Just imagine if $500 went into interiors instead of rebates. Standard 5/60,000 warranties would help GM a lot too. Big warranties are the hook that get people into Hyundias. GM needs a bigger warranty than Toyota and Honda.

 

Well, let's face it -- Right now Hummer is basically a trend -- the epitome of SUV machoism. It also seems to be a trend that's in decline, like the guys who put flaming chickens on their 3rd Gen Trans Ams.

Given enough product investment, GM might be able to turn Hummer into a long-term established brand, like Jeep. But that's going to be a stretch. We're already seeing them pushing the H3 while axing the Trailblazer ... effectively dropping out of the 'mainstream' SUV segment. How many more Chevys and Buicks are going to get canned so that Hummer can get more vehicles? It all seems like a huge gamble on the fickle public. Can GM afford to gamble? Why not sell it and get something for it while you can?

 

Hummer is iconic. Loose hummer and you loose an image, like 'viper'
Use it for the image.
Although this lets make a ton of hummers that are all similiar but more expensive then a tahoe is dumb.

Now does anyone in this country buy a saab? Do you know anyone other then jerry seinfeld that ever drove a saab? Would anyone here buy a saab?
I mean after all it is born from jets! Or at least a bunch of dead people that used to build jets.
If your not going to advertise it right, it deserves to die no matter how much it costs you, just so I don't have to hear about how it doesn't sell.

Buick, make it something! You managed to do a damn good job of making caddilac a performance/luxury vehicle. You got rid of the land barge towncar image somewhat. You made it sporty and sexy and everything a middle age rich person who is having a mid life crisis wants to buy. Not to mention the ever solid going to florida to die crowd. It competes very well with the juggernaut BMW. Now keep going and make get it all the way there.
Now do the same thing with buick. Make it kick *** in a nitch you don't have another brand dominating yet.