header question
04-08-2006, 07:19 PM
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header question
ok so im putting long tube headers on rigt now and i have my stock manafolds unbolted but there is a tube running into the top of the what is it? there isnt a spot for it on the headers. its on both manafolds and is metal then turns into a rubber hose.
04-08-2006, 07:25 PM
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Re: header question
Sounds like you are describing the AIR connections to the manifolds. Do they look like this (from Shoebox's web page)?
Did youy also discover the corrugated tube for the EGR system that runs from passenger side #8 on the exhaust manifold to the back of the intake manifold?
Did youy also discover the corrugated tube for the EGR system that runs from passenger side #8 on the exhaust manifold to the back of the intake manifold?
04-08-2006, 09:00 PM
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Re: header question
Apparently those parts can go in the garbage but then you gottta get some EGR block offs from Ebay. They go for like $26 shipped.
Get some high temp silicon (Copper colored SIlicon) and silicon those pieces up, bolt them on. It looks a ton better in my humble opinion and it will take care of your EGR tubes and stuff.
Get some high temp silicon (Copper colored SIlicon) and silicon those pieces up, bolt them on. It looks a ton better in my humble opinion and it will take care of your EGR tubes and stuff.
04-08-2006, 11:49 PM
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Re: header question
You do not need EGR blockoff plates to remove the A.I.R. injection system. Just remove the pump and all related pipes/hoses. You will throw a code until you get a tune and have the A.I.R. system programmed out.
If your headers do not have an EGR outlet on them, then you will need the EGR plates to remove the EGR system and block it off.
Here's a pic of the EGR components, again from Shoebox's Website That EGR Exhaust Gas Feed Pipe bolts into the passenger's side manifold. If your headers do not have provision for this, you'll need to remove it from the intake and block it off. Just like removeing the A.I.R. system, you'll throw a code until you get a tune with the EGR system programmed out.
Thomas.
If your headers do not have an EGR outlet on them, then you will need the EGR plates to remove the EGR system and block it off.
Here's a pic of the EGR components, again from Shoebox's Website That EGR Exhaust Gas Feed Pipe bolts into the passenger's side manifold. If your headers do not have provision for this, you'll need to remove it from the intake and block it off. Just like removeing the A.I.R. system, you'll throw a code until you get a tune with the EGR system programmed out.
Thomas.
04-09-2006, 10:20 AM
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Re: header question
From the sound of it, the tube he found was the EGR tube on the passenger side. So he will need EGR block offs....BUT if I was mistaken and it was the AIR pump, then no, just unbolt all that crap, follow the lines back to the pump, unbolt that, and then cut the metal lines and yank all that stuff out.
Regardless, I believe you are going to end up doing both since it sounds like you got the full race edition of whatever brand headers you bought and that they do not have any emissions hookups.
Regardless, I believe you are going to end up doing both since it sounds like you got the full race edition of whatever brand headers you bought and that they do not have any emissions hookups.
04-09-2006, 11:21 AM
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Re: header question
Originally Posted by johnny3986
From the sound of it, the tube he found was the EGR tube on the passenger side. So he will need EGR block offs....BUT if I was mistaken and it was the AIR pump, then no, just unbolt all that crap, follow the lines back to the pump, unbolt that, and then cut the metal lines and yank all that stuff out.
Regardless, I believe you are going to end up doing both since it sounds like you got the full race edition of whatever brand headers you bought and that they do not have any emissions hookups.
Regardless, I believe you are going to end up doing both since it sounds like you got the full race edition of whatever brand headers you bought and that they do not have any emissions hookups.
09-05-2006, 04:15 PM
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Re: header question
This is a reply 8 years in the making, but if you remove the EGR tubing and the A.I.R. system and you throw codes for each, does the car run rough or does it just simply display a code? To clarify, if I were to make these modifications, could I drive the car for a little while until I get the codes tuned out, or will the car operate poorly? Thanks. I ask this because I am considering "race headers" and an off road y pipe.
08-25-2014, 07:42 PM
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Re: header question
This is a reply 8 years in the making, but if you remove the EGR tubing and the A.I.R. system and you throw codes for each, does the car run rough or does it just simply display a code? To clarify, if I were to make these modifications, could I drive the car for a little while until I get the codes tuned out, or will the car operate poorly? Thanks. I ask this because I am considering "race headers" and an off road y pipe.
08-27-2014, 06:57 PM
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Right now, I have stock manifolds, y-pipe, and single cat. I also have all factory emissions including EGR and A.I.R. I am on the fence about installing headers right now. If I do it, I want to do it right the first time. Honestly, I don't really think I want long tubes. I think I would like the fit and compatability of mid lengths or maybe shorties. I hear shorties are a waste of money if you are going to do headers, and I can understand why. I also would like to get stainless steel headers so I wouldn't have to deal with rusting issues in the future. As hard of a job as it is to install them, I would hate to have to pull them off a few years down the road because they are rusted so bad. For my essentially stock engine, I think that midlengths and an ORY pipe with my catback would flow just fine. Maybe a year or two down the road after the headers are installed, I would consider doing a mild cam swap.
08-27-2014, 07:59 PM
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Re: header question
Right now, I have stock manifolds, y-pipe, and single cat. I also have all factory emissions including EGR and A.I.R. I am on the fence about installing headers right now. If I do it, I want to do it right the first time. Honestly, I don't really think I want long tubes. I think I would like the fit and compatability of mid lengths or maybe shorties. I hear shorties are a waste of money if you are going to do headers, and I can understand why. I also would like to get stainless steel headers so I wouldn't have to deal with rusting issues in the future. As hard of a job as it is to install them, I would hate to have to pull them off a few years down the road because they are rusted so bad. For my essentially stock engine, I think that midlengths and an ORY pipe with my catback would flow just fine. Maybe a year or two down the road after the headers are installed, I would consider doing a mild cam swap.